Between signing an executive order prohibiting federal funds to be used for abortion services, and clearing the way for off-shore drilling, I've forgotten why we all like Obama so much.
Originally posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 (2 years ago)
He signed the executive order about federal funds for abortion, to get health reform passed. It was a piece of theatrics, to placate/protect the pro life congressional democrats. It said nothing that was not already in the law and did not change the law. All it did was say: "Seriously, this is the law!"
So whatever.
I don't expect to agree with the president on every policy. I disagree with the man a fair amount. If I didn't, one of us would be doing something wrong. The question about how much I like him as a president is bigger for me than whether I disagree with him on some policy issues.
Originally posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 (2 years ago)
Edited on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:03 pm (2 years ago)
I'd rather our oil be produced at home than in the Middle East, which is both a security issue and a trade deficit issue.
It's not an either-or decision between increasing domestic oil production versus increasing cleaner energy production. In fact the two will remain fairly independent problems until a significant number of us are driving electric cars. Nationally, only about 2% of our electricity is produced from oil. (New Yorkers may have a skewed perspective on this, as 20% of NYC electricity came from oil last I checked.) So it's not like the new oil will be crowding out demand for solar power plants or whatnor. Domestic oil will replace international oil. The last several years have shown that our demand for oil is very inelastic (which is why oil companies can charge what they do and we don't really reduce our consumption), so I do not expect our total oil usage to increase by much as a result of this.
Nuclear energy, solar energy, wind farms, etc on the other hand can all replace coal as quickly as we can build those plants and get them running. Coal should be the #1 priority for environmentalists anyway, as it is significantly worse than oil both in terms of CO2 produced per unit energy and in terms of the other byproducts it produces.
I'm glad to see carbon sequestration being looked at by Obama as well, it's a very sensible idea.
It was only a matter of time before we entered the gulf Signet. The Russians were invading, bought up rights to drill off-shore in Cuba. Been monitoring this movement for about a month now.
Originally posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 (2 years ago)
The issue is strictly American's dependence on oil, domestic and foreign. I agree that additional off shore drilling is futile based on the math:
The US consumes roughly 20 million barrels a day of oil.
The domestic production of oil is only about 5 million barrels a day, so we're 75% dependent on foreign oil.
It's estimated that there is approximately 23 billion barrels of oil underground American soil (including offshore and Alaska sites) and about 700 million barrels in the US Oil reserve.
If we could magically get all of that oil today, Americans could have oil independence for only . . . THREE YEARS!!!
Originally posted Wednesday, March 31, 2010 (2 years ago)
Good heavens! Prohibiting Fed. funds for abortion & granting approval for more off-shore drilling are two of the least of my complaints. Where to start??? He hasn't gotten us out of Iraq. He hasn't closed Gitmo. He's doubled-down on Afghanistan. He hasn't gotten rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell. He hasn't prosecuted any Bush officials for torture, lying to Congress, war crimes, etc. He hasn't done anything to reverse the Bush Administration's efforts to seize imperial powers for the Presidency (he's embraced The Patriot Act). He's still funding faith-based initiatives.
In fact, I would say that he's done almost nothing to undo any of the damage inflicted upon this country by the 8-year catastrophe that was The Bush Presidency.
Now, it goes without saying that McCain/Palin would have been much, much worse. If they'd won in '08 we'd probably be at war with Iran at this time. But I must concede that Sarah Palin's right about one thing: one year into the Obama Presidency that hopey changey stuff isn't working out for me all that well.
It astounds me how much you all expect. When Obama was first elected and the word on the street was that people would become disillusioned the moment they realized Obama couldn't work miracles, I thought: "Surely none of my American friends will think that. They're too intelligent and worldly." I regret to admit that I was wrong in a lot of cases.
Obama has done a LOT already. He's been keen on action from day one. The trouble is, his hands are more or less tied when it comes to things that the Bush administration set up. It's a delicate balancing act and he's doing what he can. For me, all that matters is that steps are being made in the right direction. And huge leaps are being made in the right direction in other areas... areas that aren't so high profile because everyone's still so focused on what Bush did. Which is maybe a good thing... because the less focus there is on that stuff, the less he'll have to worry about fighting with the haters.
I just wish the lovers would be a little more patient, understanding, observant, and appreciative. By the way (and I never thought I'd say this ever in my life), your president's still a hell of a lot better than the prime ministers in either of my countries. Take solace in the fact that your country's getting better while mine are getting worse.
Originally posted Thursday, April 1, 2010 (2 years ago)
I'm less annoyed that he hasn't worked miracles then that he largely hasn't at all tried. At best he champions center-right policies. It doesn't matter if it's tactical (it's failed) or principled (he campaigned on left policies), either way it's dramatically less then just "doing what he can."
But this is a country comprised of the far right and the ultra extremist bat [bleep!] crazy far right, so yah I guess I should be somehow "thankful" that Obama's center-right policies aren't completely failing.
It's not the best Obama can do, but it is more then anyone should expect.
Originally posted Thursday, April 1, 2010 (2 years ago)
Still a fan.
He said he would draw down in Iraq and has taken responsible steps to do so. He gets no credit from either side.
He said he would fight it out and win in Afghanistan and has killed/captured more terrorists than Bush did in 6 years. No credit.
He said he would get HCR. He did and the biggest obstalces were his own Democrats. It's lukewarm at best but it's still the biggest piece of legislation in decades. Some credit.
He signed Lilly Ledbetter. No credit.
He appointed the first Latina to SCOTUS. No credit, 'cause she's a racist thug, donchaknow.
He campaigned to draw down nuclear weapons. New START treaty with 25% reductions. No credit.
He'll probably have new sanctions against Iran within a month, something that Bush was unable to do.
I'm amazed that he could get anything done with lockstep opposition from the GOP, which no longer has any interest in governing. I'm less than enthused about the Dems as a whole, who let their members cut each other over every piece of legislation, negotiating against themselves first. And I'm amazed that these crazy ass "patriots" haven't managed to kill someone yet.
I'm mixed on Obama. I agree with Bryn that he was dealt a very challenging situation--economy in crisis, 2 wars, recalcitrant Republicans, crazy racist Birthers who fail to acknowledge his legitimacy because he's Black--and that it's unreasonable to expect major changes overnight. At the same time, I agree with Zenin that much of the disappointment on the left is that he hasn't tried or fought hard enough for certain progressive causes. Yes, he got health care reform done--a major accomplishment--but he narrowly avoided utter defeat, and he never really fought for a public option (which itself was a compromise for many liberals who really wanted single-payer). He totally lost control over the narrative in the summer, allowed the process to drag out too long in the Senate Finance Committee, and did a terrible job of communicating to the public the basics on how this bill will help most of them. Now too many people believe the distortions that GOP have spread and the ugly sausage-making process has turned off many voters. For someone who is supposed to be a masterful communicator, he did a poor job on HCR. In part, this was because until October, there was no detailed bill to sell (everything was still being negotiated). Given this vacuum and Obama's unwillingness to draw some lines in the sand about what needed to be in the bill, the GOP had room to spread lies about what was in the bill--Death panels, rationing, government takeover, etc.
In the areas of civil liberties, terrorism policy, he has maintained many of the Bush policies which he could change as the Executive without Congressional approval. So, the argument that he's blocked by the Republicans in these areas doesn't hold. He could change certain policies through executive order over night. The fact that he doesn't do so angers the Left.
Also, while overall I think Obama's done a decent job, some of his problems have been self-inflicted. I think the economic team he has appointed is really weak and out of touch. His theory and approach to leadership with the stimulus and HCR bills (delegating too much to the Congress and being too hands off until the very end) has led to bills that are much weaker than they might have been. He and his administration should have been involved earlier on in sketching out some broad outlines for Congress to fill in. In trying to avoid Hillary's mistakes with HCR, he went too far in the other direction in delegating to Congress. And he failed to take some risks and spend political capital when he had so much of it early on in his term.
Actually the real impressive leaders in DC has been Nancy Pelosi. Her ability to whip a disparate, unruly group of House Dems (from conservative Blue Dogs to very liberal members) has been impressive. She's delivered every time for Obama and saved him with HCR.
If Obama learns from his mistakes and gets a bit wiser about the true prospects for bipartisanship--which are extremely low--I think he will have a very successful term. But, it he doesn't learn from them, I will be very disappointed.
Originally posted Thursday, April 1, 2010 (2 years ago)
I agree with many of the previous sentiments about Jordanesque expectations, and the fact that he has gotten a lot of (sometimes incredible) results. However, no walking on water and he still needs to deal with the realities of current politics, with mega-super-ultra-bipartisianship and members of congress listening to Fox News opinionators instead of their own constituents (who themselves are being significantly drawn into crazy-land by the opinionators).
While I'm not happy about the offshore oil announcement, I expect to see the rigs next to wind farms.
"Our imagination is stretched to the utmost, not, as in fiction, to imagine things which are not really there, but just to comprehend those things which 'are' there." - Richard Feynman
Originally posted Thursday, April 1, 2010 (2 years ago)
Is he all I wanted? No.
Is he what I expected? Yes, in the sense that I expected that his attempt at post-partisanship would be a failure.
Is he better than the alternative of President John McCain? Hell effing yes.
I think it's time to ask RM why she continues to this day to harbor Obama Derangement Syndrome? Look at Mousethief's post, for crying out loud. There are real accomplishments in there and real pathways to real change (there's like half the troops in Iraq that there were before he took office, with McCain there would probably be more now). The whole START thing is freaking awesome. Lily Ledbetter? Kickass. HCR? A mild victory, even if there are some bitter pills to swallow. Sotomayor? Fantastic.
The only place where Obama has been a total failure for me has been LGBT. And even then it's better than McCain would have been.
Seriously, the mere possibility of a McCain/Palin alternative is enough to make me never regret my vote for Obama, even if his presidency is underwhelming. If he ends up being more of a Jimmy Carter than an FDR it'll STILL be better than what McCain and Palin could have wrought on us for four or eight years, and that's all I really need him to be.
Obama has been a total failure for me in the national security (surveillance, torture, etc.) area since before his election. It's why I only gave $50 to his campaign, and did nothing other than voting for him on Election day.
Honestly, his position on Bagram, state secrets, surveillance, civilian trials and the rest of the issues in that area is positively infuriating. Especially from a con law prof.
Is he better than Bush? Not in those areas, but in others, sure. Is he better than McCain? Same answer.
Originally posted Friday, April 2, 2010 (2 years ago)
To echo Marcelo and Hoya, I am very disappointed on LGBT rights and on civil liberty issues.
The wiretapping has to stop. The exemptions given to the Executive Branch have to stop. The legal basis for extraordinary action by the Executive needs to change.
I have a little more confidence on the LGBT front. DADT will end under Obama. There's been some LGBT friendly appointments as well. But the real deal, the [bleep!] that affects people on a daily basis - marriage, partner rights, insurance, etc - that's been a dismal failure.
There are my biggest disappointments as well. We need to get the ball rolling on these issues. With HCR no longer being the defining fight within the legislature, it's fair for us to expect and demand action regarding LGBT rights and restoring our civil liberties.
Perhaps this is my ignorance, but I feel like we could be getting out of Iraq more quickly while still being responsible about the situation we leave them with.
Originally posted Friday, April 2, 2010 (2 years ago)
Maybe. But we don't really have honest partners in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Maliki is declaring the election flawed because he didn't win and Karzai is a corrupt piece of [bleep!] that rails against the West (he's doing it right now, saying we conspired to commit election fraud) even though we are all there is between him and the Taliban.
Originally posted Friday, April 2, 2010 (2 years ago)
"I was up in Maine and I was joking about -- only slightly joking -- about the fact that the day after we signed it, everybody started writing these stories about how the country is still divided on health care, it hasn't suddenly become universally popular. (Laughter.) What's going on?
It's been a week, folks. (Laughter.)
So I said -- can you imagine if, you know, the pundits and the cable guys were covering a farm? (Laughter.) And, you know, you sort of till the soil and -- look, the soil is all messed up. (Laughter.) And then you put the seeds in and the next day they'd write a story -- nothing is growing. (Laughter.) We're going to starve. There are no crops. (Laughter.) It's polling really badly. (Laughter and applause.)
Here's the point -- (laughter) -- I'm starting to have fun, which I should not do -- in ways large and small, Boston, we've begun to deliver on the change you believed in. We have done what we said we would do."
Originally posted Saturday, April 3, 2010 (2 years ago)
Kalman (response to post #22)
Please explain how the Bush tax cuts were a budget busting entitlement program. Bush was a failure as a President for (among other things) failing to cut federal spending, not for cutting taxes.
As for the wars, if you understood Islam, you would realize that we are at war whether we want to be or not. There is, of course, a lot of room for discussion as to how we should fight the war.
No one has mentioned our relationships with Honduras, Israel, Poland, or any other nation trying to be our friend.
Remind me why we like Obama?
Between signing an executive order prohibiting federal funds to be used for abortion services, and clearing the way for off-shore drilling, I've forgotten why we all like Obama so much.
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Why are you including yourself in there - you never did.
Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?
He signed the executive order about federal funds for abortion, to get health reform passed. It was a piece of theatrics, to placate/protect the pro life congressional democrats. It said nothing that was not already in the law and did not change the law. All it did was say: "Seriously, this is the law!"
So whatever.
I don't expect to agree with the president on every policy. I disagree with the man a fair amount. If I didn't, one of us would be doing something wrong. The question about how much I like him as a president is bigger for me than whether I disagree with him on some policy issues.
I'd rather our oil be produced at home than in the Middle East, which is both a security issue and a trade deficit issue.
It's not an either-or decision between increasing domestic oil production versus increasing cleaner energy production. In fact the two will remain fairly independent problems until a significant number of us are driving electric cars. Nationally, only about 2% of our electricity is produced from oil. (New Yorkers may have a skewed perspective on this, as 20% of NYC electricity came from oil last I checked.) So it's not like the new oil will be crowding out demand for solar power plants or whatnor. Domestic oil will replace international oil. The last several years have shown that our demand for oil is very inelastic (which is why oil companies can charge what they do and we don't really reduce our consumption), so I do not expect our total oil usage to increase by much as a result of this.
Nuclear energy, solar energy, wind farms, etc on the other hand can all replace coal as quickly as we can build those plants and get them running. Coal should be the #1 priority for environmentalists anyway, as it is significantly worse than oil both in terms of CO2 produced per unit energy and in terms of the other byproducts it produces.
I'm glad to see carbon sequestration being looked at by Obama as well, it's a very sensible idea.
- James
It was only a matter of time before we entered the gulf Signet. The Russians were invading, bought up rights to drill off-shore in Cuba. Been monitoring this movement for about a month now.
I wasn't going to go there. But since you brought it up :-)
The issue is strictly American's dependence on oil, domestic and foreign. I agree that additional off shore drilling is futile based on the math:
The US consumes roughly 20 million barrels a day of oil.
The domestic production of oil is only about 5 million barrels a day, so we're 75% dependent on foreign oil.
It's estimated that there is approximately 23 billion barrels of oil underground American soil (including offshore and Alaska sites) and about 700 million barrels in the US Oil reserve.
If we could magically get all of that oil today, Americans could have oil independence for only . . . THREE YEARS!!!
CollegiateShag.com
Good heavens! Prohibiting Fed. funds for abortion & granting approval for more off-shore drilling are two of the least of my complaints. Where to start??? He hasn't gotten us out of Iraq. He hasn't closed Gitmo. He's doubled-down on Afghanistan. He hasn't gotten rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell. He hasn't prosecuted any Bush officials for torture, lying to Congress, war crimes, etc. He hasn't done anything to reverse the Bush Administration's efforts to seize imperial powers for the Presidency (he's embraced The Patriot Act). He's still funding faith-based initiatives.
In fact, I would say that he's done almost nothing to undo any of the damage inflicted upon this country by the 8-year catastrophe that was The Bush Presidency.
Now, it goes without saying that McCain/Palin would have been much, much worse. If they'd won in '08 we'd probably be at war with Iran at this time. But I must concede that Sarah Palin's right about one thing: one year into the Obama Presidency that hopey changey stuff isn't working out for me all that well.
you just got to listen to the music, 'cause it's talkin' to you man! -frankie http://www.zazzle.com/anarchyforpresident
It astounds me how much you all expect. When Obama was first elected and the word on the street was that people would become disillusioned the moment they realized Obama couldn't work miracles, I thought: "Surely none of my American friends will think that. They're too intelligent and worldly." I regret to admit that I was wrong in a lot of cases.
Obama has done a LOT already. He's been keen on action from day one. The trouble is, his hands are more or less tied when it comes to things that the Bush administration set up. It's a delicate balancing act and he's doing what he can. For me, all that matters is that steps are being made in the right direction. And huge leaps are being made in the right direction in other areas... areas that aren't so high profile because everyone's still so focused on what Bush did. Which is maybe a good thing... because the less focus there is on that stuff, the less he'll have to worry about fighting with the haters.
I just wish the lovers would be a little more patient, understanding, observant, and appreciative. By the way (and I never thought I'd say this ever in my life), your president's still a hell of a lot better than the prime ministers in either of my countries. Take solace in the fact that your country's getting better while mine are getting worse.
I'm less annoyed that he hasn't worked miracles then that he largely hasn't at all tried. At best he champions center-right policies. It doesn't matter if it's tactical (it's failed) or principled (he campaigned on left policies), either way it's dramatically less then just "doing what he can."
But this is a country comprised of the far right and the ultra extremist bat [bleep!] crazy far right, so yah I guess I should be somehow "thankful" that Obama's center-right policies aren't completely failing.
It's not the best Obama can do, but it is more then anyone should expect.
Still a fan.
He said he would draw down in Iraq and has taken responsible steps to do so. He gets no credit from either side.
He said he would fight it out and win in Afghanistan and has killed/captured more terrorists than Bush did in 6 years. No credit.
He said he would get HCR. He did and the biggest obstalces were his own Democrats. It's lukewarm at best but it's still the biggest piece of legislation in decades. Some credit.
He signed Lilly Ledbetter. No credit.
He appointed the first Latina to SCOTUS. No credit, 'cause she's a racist thug, donchaknow.
He campaigned to draw down nuclear weapons. New START treaty with 25% reductions. No credit.
He'll probably have new sanctions against Iran within a month, something that Bush was unable to do.
I'm amazed that he could get anything done with lockstep opposition from the GOP, which no longer has any interest in governing. I'm less than enthused about the Dems as a whole, who let their members cut each other over every piece of legislation, negotiating against themselves first. And I'm amazed that these crazy ass "patriots" haven't managed to kill someone yet.
But no credit, none needed right?
Kalman
I'm mixed on Obama. I agree with Bryn that he was dealt a very challenging situation--economy in crisis, 2 wars, recalcitrant Republicans, crazy racist Birthers who fail to acknowledge his legitimacy because he's Black--and that it's unreasonable to expect major changes overnight. At the same time, I agree with Zenin that much of the disappointment on the left is that he hasn't tried or fought hard enough for certain progressive causes. Yes, he got health care reform done--a major accomplishment--but he narrowly avoided utter defeat, and he never really fought for a public option (which itself was a compromise for many liberals who really wanted single-payer). He totally lost control over the narrative in the summer, allowed the process to drag out too long in the Senate Finance Committee, and did a terrible job of communicating to the public the basics on how this bill will help most of them. Now too many people believe the distortions that GOP have spread and the ugly sausage-making process has turned off many voters. For someone who is supposed to be a masterful communicator, he did a poor job on HCR. In part, this was because until October, there was no detailed bill to sell (everything was still being negotiated). Given this vacuum and Obama's unwillingness to draw some lines in the sand about what needed to be in the bill, the GOP had room to spread lies about what was in the bill--Death panels, rationing, government takeover, etc.
In the areas of civil liberties, terrorism policy, he has maintained many of the Bush policies which he could change as the Executive without Congressional approval. So, the argument that he's blocked by the Republicans in these areas doesn't hold. He could change certain policies through executive order over night. The fact that he doesn't do so angers the Left.
Also, while overall I think Obama's done a decent job, some of his problems have been self-inflicted. I think the economic team he has appointed is really weak and out of touch. His theory and approach to leadership with the stimulus and HCR bills (delegating too much to the Congress and being too hands off until the very end) has led to bills that are much weaker than they might have been. He and his administration should have been involved earlier on in sketching out some broad outlines for Congress to fill in. In trying to avoid Hillary's mistakes with HCR, he went too far in the other direction in delegating to Congress. And he failed to take some risks and spend political capital when he had so much of it early on in his term.
Actually the real impressive leaders in DC has been Nancy Pelosi. Her ability to whip a disparate, unruly group of House Dems (from conservative Blue Dogs to very liberal members) has been impressive. She's delivered every time for Obama and saved him with HCR.
If Obama learns from his mistakes and gets a bit wiser about the true prospects for bipartisanship--which are extremely low--I think he will have a very successful term. But, it he doesn't learn from them, I will be very disappointed.
I agree with many of the previous sentiments about Jordanesque expectations, and the fact that he has gotten a lot of (sometimes incredible) results. However, no walking on water and he still needs to deal with the realities of current politics, with mega-super-ultra-bipartisianship and members of congress listening to Fox News opinionators instead of their own constituents (who themselves are being significantly drawn into crazy-land by the opinionators).
While I'm not happy about the offshore oil announcement, I expect to see the rigs next to wind farms.
"Our imagination is stretched to the utmost, not, as in fiction, to imagine things which are not really there, but just to comprehend those things which 'are' there." - Richard Feynman
I still like him because I never expected him to fart rainbows to begin with.
Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow
I like him because he isn't named Bush
Because he's black and if you hate him then you're racist.
Elmo likes to Lindy Hop!
because you like budget busting entitlement programs that transfer money to boomers?
Is he all I wanted? No.
Is he what I expected? Yes, in the sense that I expected that his attempt at post-partisanship would be a failure.
Is he better than the alternative of President John McCain? Hell effing yes.
I think it's time to ask RM why she continues to this day to harbor Obama Derangement Syndrome? Look at Mousethief's post, for crying out loud. There are real accomplishments in there and real pathways to real change (there's like half the troops in Iraq that there were before he took office, with McCain there would probably be more now). The whole START thing is freaking awesome. Lily Ledbetter? Kickass. HCR? A mild victory, even if there are some bitter pills to swallow. Sotomayor? Fantastic.
The only place where Obama has been a total failure for me has been LGBT. And even then it's better than McCain would have been.
Seriously, the mere possibility of a McCain/Palin alternative is enough to make me never regret my vote for Obama, even if his presidency is underwhelming. If he ends up being more of a Jimmy Carter than an FDR it'll STILL be better than what McCain and Palin could have wrought on us for four or eight years, and that's all I really need him to be.
...and because he makes ultraconservative folks like Wino go bat[bleep!] crazy. I LOVE that about Obama. :)
Obama has been a total failure for me in the national security (surveillance, torture, etc.) area since before his election. It's why I only gave $50 to his campaign, and did nothing other than voting for him on Election day.
Honestly, his position on Bagram, state secrets, surveillance, civilian trials and the rest of the issues in that area is positively infuriating. Especially from a con law prof.
Is he better than Bush? Not in those areas, but in others, sure. Is he better than McCain? Same answer.
Fair point.
You mean like the Bush era tax cuts or the entirely unfunded Medicare Part D drug entitlement? Or maybe you're thinking of two totally unfunded wars.
Kalman
To echo Marcelo and Hoya, I am very disappointed on LGBT rights and on civil liberty issues.
The wiretapping has to stop. The exemptions given to the Executive Branch have to stop. The legal basis for extraordinary action by the Executive needs to change.
I have a little more confidence on the LGBT front. DADT will end under Obama. There's been some LGBT friendly appointments as well. But the real deal, the [bleep!] that affects people on a daily basis - marriage, partner rights, insurance, etc - that's been a dismal failure.
Kalman
There are my biggest disappointments as well. We need to get the ball rolling on these issues. With HCR no longer being the defining fight within the legislature, it's fair for us to expect and demand action regarding LGBT rights and restoring our civil liberties.
Perhaps this is my ignorance, but I feel like we could be getting out of Iraq more quickly while still being responsible about the situation we leave them with.
- James
Maybe. But we don't really have honest partners in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Maliki is declaring the election flawed because he didn't win and Karzai is a corrupt piece of [bleep!] that rails against the West (he's doing it right now, saying we conspired to commit election fraud) even though we are all there is between him and the Taliban.
Kalman
This is not just a fair point. It needs emphasizing.
you just got to listen to the music, 'cause it's talkin' to you man! -frankie http://www.zazzle.com/anarchyforpresident
"I was up in Maine and I was joking about -- only slightly joking -- about the fact that the day after we signed it, everybody started writing these stories about how the country is still divided on health care, it hasn't suddenly become universally popular. (Laughter.) What's going on?
It's been a week, folks. (Laughter.)
So I said -- can you imagine if, you know, the pundits and the cable guys were covering a farm? (Laughter.) And, you know, you sort of till the soil and -- look, the soil is all messed up. (Laughter.) And then you put the seeds in and the next day they'd write a story -- nothing is growing. (Laughter.) We're going to starve. There are no crops. (Laughter.) It's polling really badly. (Laughter and applause.)
Here's the point -- (laughter) -- I'm starting to have fun, which I should not do -- in ways large and small, Boston, we've begun to deliver on the change you believed in. We have done what we said we would do."
Nice text but the lede coming out the MSM was:
Obama compares pundits to farmers.
Kalmam
Just so long as they're not watering the plants with Brawndo.
Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow
Kalman (response to post #22)
Please explain how the Bush tax cuts were a budget busting entitlement program. Bush was a failure as a President for (among other things) failing to cut federal spending, not for cutting taxes.
As for the wars, if you understood Islam, you would realize that we are at war whether we want to be or not. There is, of course, a lot of room for discussion as to how we should fight the war.
No one has mentioned our relationships with Honduras, Israel, Poland, or any other nation trying to be our friend.
http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2010/04/02/slapping_friends
I was wondering if some of you voted for Obama because Bush wasn't obsequious enough to the Chinese or Saudis.
Marcelo-
I'm glad that I can bring some happiness into your life.
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