This is the thread for all you Mac geeks out there... First topic: Jobs's keynote at MWSF and the associated announcements. New PowerBooks - 12" and 17" models Airport Extreme - Apple's implementation of 802.11g Keynote - Presentation software (what Jobs has been using for the last…
Originally posted Wednesday, January 7, 2004 (8 years ago)
Heh...you know with macs, you can boot up one computer in "Target Disk" mode and it becomes a firewire drive, allowing for mad transfer speeds between machines. :)
I recently read Steve Job's Rolling Stone interview. It was really interesting. It's very interesting to listen to him talk about various technologies, especially iTunes. The things he cares about are not the things one would expect him to care about. He really does "think different."
That having been said, I STILL think that the mini ipods are too expensive. It's just not wise.
The thing I really love about my macs (there are 5 in the house - my dual G4, my roommate's Powerbook, my girlfriend's Powerbook, my roommate's old pink iMac, and a Beige G3 I salvaged from work) is that the old ones still kick ass. I'm running an old Beige G3 300 downstairs and it's running OS X perfectly, serving up MP3's to everyone. After a processor upgrade I'm going to turn it into a Tivo-like device. That old G3 can still run Pro Tools decently. Meanwhile, my old PC, a Pentium II from the same era as the old G3 (even a little later) can barely crunch through Internet Explorer. It's amazing how well this stuff stands up.
Originally posted Thursday, January 8, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "ThatAdamGuy"
I was just emphasizing earlier that -- for the price conscious in particular -- PCs are where it's at. And Wexie, I must admit respectful skepticism about TCO, excepting in corporate environments. I believe PC peripherals are considerably cheaper than Mac peripherals overall, largely due to the competition, and I'm not quite sure what other TCO issues would be factored into personal computing. But I'm certainly open to hearing more info about this.
Adam, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding peripherals. But they are the same price for both platform. I am talking about printers, scanners, mice, tablets, joysticks, etc. All of the name brand peripheral work on both platforms with different drivers. If you are talking about flat panel displays, they are a little more expensive, but they are also a superior product.
For personal users, the the TCO is harder to gage. I have found that when a computer user has very little to no computer experience, the Mac is generally easier and much more inviting. They create a system that even neophytes feel compelled to play with. I read a recent study where they asked the question "Do you love your computer." 18 of PC users said yes. 69 of Mac users said yes. Liking your computer more drops TCO. They have less problems than PCs, and it is generally easier to fix the problems on a Mac than a PC.
Regarding corporate environments.
I have supported Macs & PCs in mixed platform environments for well over a decade. Since I specialize in working in creative environments, (advertising, publishing, corproate identity, etc.) In every single place i there was an average of 3 Macs to every PC. They ALWAYS had the same number of technicians supporting the Macs and the PCs, even though there was between 2 and 3 times the number of Macs.
Being the head of large Mac Departments, I frequently had to justify various technology choices. Several independant research firms did reports comparing TCO issues. (These same research firms did studies and hundreds of different business related issues from accounting systems, to evaluating purchase Vs. Lease, etc. Companies such as IDG and Gartner ) I would purchase these reports, or get them from collegues in the industry and use them as backup documentation when arguing my case in front of various technology boards. These documents were over a 100 pages. They polled hundreds of companies and were extremely detailed. Every study I have read, all determined that the TCO of the Mac was considerably less than PCs. They also found that running mixed platform environments was no more expensive than running Windows only environements.
I do have to add, that I have not seen an objective TCO report since the launch of OSX. My guess is that the TCO gap is narrowing a bit.
Quoted from "ThatAdamGuy"
My next Apple experiences were in my dorm's computer lab in undergrad. I remember those Macs being clunky, crash-prone, and slow
My guess is that your experience with "Macs being clunky, crash-prone, and slow" is more indicative of you working in an environment that was not properly maintained. Frequently, IT departments on a budget, hire Windows technicians who are forced to support Macs, and the basically don't have a clue about what they are doing. I recently did some consulting for FIT university in Manhattan. They had well over a hundred Macs and not one of the 10 people in the IT department was a Mac specialist.
Originally posted Friday, January 9, 2004 (8 years ago)
Mugsy and other Mac-geeks,
My G3 iBook finally gave up the ghost after valiantly chugging along after I stupidly spilled a cup of coffee on it five months ago. After my local Mac shop in the City (go Tekserve!) gave up on me, I made a desperate purchase yesterday of a replacement ibook, also G3, 900 Mhz, 384M Ram.
The new iBook comes with Panther, but I have not installed it yet. I am worried about performance on my G3 and if there is a substantial added value to having it on my machine.
Is the new Finder much much better than the old one? I don't really need any of the iLife enhancements other than iPhoto, which I already use. Why else should I install Panther?
Originally posted Saturday, January 10, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "Slick Rik" Mugsy and other Mac-geeks,
My G3 iBook finally gave up the ghost after valiantly chugging along after I stupidly spilled a cup of coffee on it five months ago. After my local Mac shop in the City (go Tekserve!) gave up on me, I made a desperate purchase yesterday of a replacement ibook, also G3, 900 Mhz, 384M Ram.
The new iBook comes with Panther, but I have not installed it yet. I am worried about performance on my G3 and if there is a substantial added value to having it on my machine.
Is the new Finder much much better than the old one? I don't really need any of the iLife enhancements other than iPhoto, which I already use. Why else should I install Panther?
Thanks, dude.
Rik, i'm so sorry about your old laptop. That really bites.
Regarding upgrading to Panther. I think it will be fine on your G3.
Apple is up to the 10.3.2 update, and have released the first major security update patch. I think it is relativly safe to upgrade now. If you want to be a little more conservative, wait til 10.3.3 comes out.
I was at the MacWorld about 5 years ago right after Gates pumped a bunch of money (I think 125 Million) into Apple. Steve Jobs had Bill Gates satellite into his keynote address at MacWorld. The crowd booed.
They say politics makes for strange bedfellows. Nothing could be more true when describing the relationship between Apple and Microsoft.
Microsoft "stole" the modern operating system from Apple. Anyone who retorts that "Well, Apple stole it from Xerox" knows very little about the Xerox operating system. As an analogy, Xerox developed the first go-cart, Apple developed the first modern automobile. (For example, the original mouse was actually a very complicated device, that took over a month to learn how to use.) I used to have a shirt that said "Mac OS, the features of Windows 95 since 1984.
Microsoft stole the modern OS from Apple, and did a much better job of selling it. Apple is responsible for a significant portion of leading Microsoft technology, from the modern GUI, to TrueType, to QuickTime, to SCSI, to FireWire. Microsoft even hired the programmer that coded the original QuickTime to write the code for Windows Media. When Apple sued them, it was revealed that over 70 of the code in the first version of Windows Media was directly taken from QuickTime. By court ordered Microsft to re-write the code for Windows Media from the ground up.
The article suggests that Microsft was one of the only supporters of Apple, and developed for Apple when no one else would. This is so simplistic, it is misleading. Microsoft was developing for Apple, but they did a piss poor job, and it was so obviously calculated. I believe it was office 6 that was out for the PC, and Office 4.2.1 on the Mac. To make matters worse, when you launched Word for example on Windows, it took 7 seconds to launch, whereas on the Mac, it took over a minute and a half. This created a common perception that this was somehow a Mac problem, when in reality, this was simply do to one of the sloppiest ports of code in history. Microsoft was "helping" Apple with one hand, and stabbing them in the back with the other.
Microsoft did everything it could to put Apple out of the buisness, and it came very close to succeeding. Then the lightbulb went off for Microsoft, and they realized that if they did put Apple out of business, they would really have problems with the FCC. One of the most telling lines in the article was "Microsoft props up Apple with Office, and Apple keeps the Justice Department off Microsoft's back by offering some competition in the operating system market."
It wasn't until Microsoft realized the implications of putting Apple out of business, that they sincerely started supporting Apple. First Microsoft funneled the much needed money into Apple. Then Microsoft came out with Office 98. They actually created an independent department for creating software for the Mac. They hired a team of Apple Programers to write Office 98 from the ground up, and it was a good, strong product. There were actually features in Mac version of products that was not available in Windows version. Even currently, there are some cool features in Internet Explorer on the Mac that are not present in the Windows version, such as Download Manager and the ability to cue up practically unlimmited files for downloading.
Although I like Safari, I am upset that Microsft will not be developing IE for the Macintosh. I'm not sure if Apple came out with Safari, and then Microsoft retaliated, or if Microsoft decided not to continue developing IE for the Mac, and Apple decided to take care of it's own...I tend to think the former, and I think that was a mistake.
The article quotes someone as saying "The source suggested Apple and Microsoft have a 'marriage of convenience.'" I don't think it is convenient, I think they have been married by destiny. They need eachother. Microsoft will always be able to use it's industry leverage to really hurt Apple. If they do hurt Apple, everyone suffers, including Microsoft. First, if they hurt Apple too much, it will cause them more issues with the FCC. Moreover, as the article states, deveping Apple software is " a pretty profitable business for Microsoft." To hurt Apple, also hits a Microsoft profit center. They will almost literally be cutting off thier nose to spite their face.
I hope these two companies continue to have healthy competition while supporting eachother. It's a win/win scenerio.
Originally posted Thursday, January 15, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "Slick Rik" Mugsy and other Mac-geeks,
My G3 iBook finally gave up the ghost after valiantly chugging along after I stupidly spilled a cup of coffee on it five months ago. After my local Mac shop in the City (go Tekserve!) gave up on me, I made a desperate purchase yesterday of a replacement ibook, also G3, 900 Mhz, 384M Ram.
The new iBook comes with Panther, but I have not installed it yet. I am worried about performance on my G3 and if there is a substantial added value to having it on my machine.
Is the new Finder much much better than the old one? I don't really need any of the iLife enhancements other than iPhoto, which I already use. Why else should I install Panther?
Thanks, dude.
Sorry it took so long to answer.
Panther is blazingly fast. If you have a copy there is no reason whatsoever not to install it on your G3 iBook unless you are using some quixotic program that doesn't have Panther support yet. ALL the major programs for mac are now Panther compatible. And aside from the new Finder (which is great), there's also Expose (which you have to see to believe), the new DVD player (way better), and all sorts of other random little improvements.
Not to mention that my bootup time was cut in half by the upgrade.
Originally posted Friday, January 16, 2004 (8 years ago)
My previous iBook (G3-700) upgraded fine, for 10.1.5 to panther. No bumps at all. I did find, that after a while I craved more RAM (had 384, upgraded to 640) It worked like a dream, and made all the difference for people like me who have a zillion apps open, and still use Virtual PC ever so often.
I liked panther so much, I caved andbought myself a G4-1ghz powerbook (12") and all I can say, Ill never look back
slightly off topic, any other mac users play with bluetooth, Im sold.
Originally posted Friday, January 16, 2004 (8 years ago)
Well, if your Powerbook doesn't have built-in USB, it won't run Panther. The best you can do is 10.2.8 (the latest version of Jaguar). There is a program called XPostFacto that you can use to run OS X on previously incompatible systems. I would recommend googling it and getting help there.
There is also a website that was really helpful called lowendmac.com that catalogues all the old macs and gives you tips on running them correctly.
I'm sorry I can't help you anymore than that, without seeing it I don't know exactly what the problem is.
Originally posted Friday, January 16, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "zooey" My previous iBook (G3-700) upgraded fine, for 10.1.5 to panther. No bumps at all. I did find, that after a while I craved more RAM (had 384, upgraded to 640) It worked like a dream, and made all the difference for people like me who have a zillion apps open, and still use Virtual PC ever so often.
I liked panther so much, I caved andbought myself a G4-1ghz powerbook (12") and all I can say, Ill never look back
slightly off topic, any other mac users play with bluetooth, Im sold.
Just got the Sony Ericsson T616 phone, and am having trouble getting it to work w/my 1gHz 12" Powerbook.
It worked once, sort of--it imported most but not all of my contacts. Now my Powerbook can't even find the damn thing at all.
Originally posted Friday, January 16, 2004 (8 years ago)
What are you using to sync them up - iSync?
I use Bluetooth on my Sony Ericsson t68i and it works like a charm. I can send photos taken with the phone to my computer, I can make lil cellphone backgrounds in photoshop and send them back to the phone, I have my contacts all synced up.
If you have a bluetooth phone, you MUST get Salling Clicker - it is THE Bluetooth phone app you've been waiting for - use your cellphone as a remote control in iTunes, DVD player, Powerpoint, Keynote, whatever you want - and it's like a 10 dollar piece of software - definitely worth the price. You have to see it to believe it. It's freaking amazing.
Originally posted Friday, January 16, 2004 (8 years ago)
I'm bummed that I use Sprint, who are apparently afraid of Bluetooth (there are no Bluetooth phones available thorugh Sprint).
I really would like a Bluetooth mouse for my 12" PB...but not the Apple one. I need a multi-button. And the only multi-button Bluetooth mouse I have seen has been the Microsoft one..which I don't want to get (I have MS "wired" mice and love them, but everything I've read about the BT MS mouse says it just eats batteries like candy).
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Originally posted Sunday, January 18, 2004 (8 years ago)
Thanks for the help on OSX. I'll try that stuff out when I get my hands on the disk again.
Meanwhile, I have another question about USB. I need to find a way to connect my digital camera, which only has usb to my computer. Unfortunately, one of my pc card slots is broken and the other is used by my modem (and last time I ejected it, I almost didn't get it back in, so I don't see that as an option).
ONCE I saw a usb device to serial adapter, but since then no store I've gone to has heard of it, and any web searches I've done only give me adapters going the other direction (serial device to usb). Can I just use one of those adapters combined with a male/female serial adapter?
Originally posted Sunday, January 18, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "Mugsy Malone" I'm bummed that I use Sprint, who are apparently afraid of Bluetooth (there are no Bluetooth phones available thorugh Sprint).
I really would like a Bluetooth mouse for my 12" PB...but not the Apple one. I need a multi-button. And the only multi-button Bluetooth mouse I have seen has been the Microsoft one..which I don't want to get (I have MS "wired" mice and love them, but everything I've read about the BT MS mouse says it just eats batteries like candy).
Mugs,
Logiech's got a new bluetooth mouse out (it's the MX 900 over here). I've used it and it works like a charm.
Originally posted Sunday, January 18, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "zooey" My previous iBook (G3-700) ... and still use Virtual PC ever so often.
Zooey,
How's the performance of Virtual PC on the G3 700. I have one, and DP on the desktop. I've shied away from running it on the iBook. Is it bearable? How long does it take to boot XP. (BTW my iBook has 640MB of RAM.)
Originally posted Sunday, January 18, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "Mugsy Malone" I'm bummed that I use Sprint, who are apparently afraid of Bluetooth (there are no Bluetooth phones available thorugh Sprint).
It's not really their fault. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA-based carriers. So, they have wait for Qualcomm to come out with a CDMA chipset with Bluetooth built-in. Qualcomm is being <I>really</I> slow about it.
Originally posted Sunday, January 18, 2004 (8 years ago)
Quoted from "Chivalrous" Thanks for the help on OSX. I'll try that stuff out when I get my hands on the disk again.
Meanwhile, I have another question about USB. I need to find a way to connect my digital camera, which only has usb to my computer. Unfortunately, one of my pc card slots is broken and the other is used by my modem (and last time I ejected it, I almost didn't get it back in, so I don't see that as an option).
ONCE I saw a usb device to serial adapter, but since then no store I've gone to has heard of it, and any web searches I've done only give me adapters going the other direction (serial device to usb). Can I just use one of those adapters combined with a male/female serial adapter?
Or will that just tick off the gods of Best Buy?
They have them. Try ordering online and you might find what you're looking for. The best place to get a good price on hardware is pricewatch.com
I second the Logitech MX series. I have the MX700 (the infrared version of the 900) and it's fantastic. The IR receiver doubles as a battery charger.
Originally posted Monday, January 19, 2004 (8 years ago)
Ok, I got GarageBand on Friday...it's superfly.
I also got the Jam Pack, which is causing me grief.
I have a 12" 1 Ghz PB, and drive space on my internal hard drive is pretty tight. However, I have 370 GB of space on external drives (used for my video editing, etc).
So I figured no worries, I'll just point Jam Pack to one of the external drives - seeing as it's just a bunch of loops and instruments, shouldn't be a problem.
Nope. The installer insists on installing it on a drive with OS X installed on it. Why? What is the purpose of this? It seems that none of Apple's installers allow you to put any of the "stuff" from the app on any drive but the system drive. Which can start to be a pain for us smaller drive folks :)
Thoughts?
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Originally posted Monday, January 19, 2004 (8 years ago)
No, I don't have any OS on either of my external drives. Might not be a bad idea though - even if just to fool some apps into getting installed there.
Jam Pack is like 3 GB I think. GB itself took up about 2.5 or 3 GB. FYI - you cannot install GB without a DVD drive - the iLife 04 software came with both a CD install, and a DVD install. The CD install does NOT include GB.
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Originally posted Wednesday, February 11, 2004 (8 years ago)
I'm having Font Book problems. I am running Panther on my Powerbook G4. I like Font Book much better than Suitcase (which I have) or ATM Deluxe (which I don't have for Panther).
I've been trying to add fonts as I have copied over a bunch from archive disks and had to import some for some freelance work I am doing.
I had Font Book running pretty well until I tried to deactivate all of the fonts I didn't need open, and now the window is blank and it times for up to 15 minutes. Then it doesn't even respond to any commands of any kind.
The support section of Apple.com offers no advice of the sort.
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Heh...you know with macs, you can boot up one computer in "Target Disk" mode and it becomes a firewire drive, allowing for mad transfer speeds between machines. :)
I recently read Steve Job's Rolling Stone interview. It was really interesting. It's very interesting to listen to him talk about various technologies, especially iTunes. The things he cares about are not the things one would expect him to care about. He really does "think different."
That having been said, I STILL think that the mini ipods are too expensive. It's just not wise.
The thing I really love about my macs (there are 5 in the house - my dual G4, my roommate's Powerbook, my girlfriend's Powerbook, my roommate's old pink iMac, and a Beige G3 I salvaged from work) is that the old ones still kick ass. I'm running an old Beige G3 300 downstairs and it's running OS X perfectly, serving up MP3's to everyone. After a processor upgrade I'm going to turn it into a Tivo-like device. That old G3 can still run Pro Tools decently. Meanwhile, my old PC, a Pentium II from the same era as the old G3 (even a little later) can barely crunch through Internet Explorer. It's amazing how well this stuff stands up.
For those of you who think Macs are only for wusses who don't understand technology...check out this article - What is Mac OS X?
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Here's an interesting article on Apple's Unlikely Guardian Angel.
Adam, I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding peripherals. But they are the same price for both platform. I am talking about printers, scanners, mice, tablets, joysticks, etc. All of the name brand peripheral work on both platforms with different drivers. If you are talking about flat panel displays, they are a little more expensive, but they are also a superior product.
For personal users, the the TCO is harder to gage. I have found that when a computer user has very little to no computer experience, the Mac is generally easier and much more inviting. They create a system that even neophytes feel compelled to play with. I read a recent study where they asked the question "Do you love your computer." 18 of PC users said yes. 69 of Mac users said yes. Liking your computer more drops TCO. They have less problems than PCs, and it is generally easier to fix the problems on a Mac than a PC.
Regarding corporate environments.
I have supported Macs & PCs in mixed platform environments for well over a decade. Since I specialize in working in creative environments, (advertising, publishing, corproate identity, etc.) In every single place i there was an average of 3 Macs to every PC. They ALWAYS had the same number of technicians supporting the Macs and the PCs, even though there was between 2 and 3 times the number of Macs.
Being the head of large Mac Departments, I frequently had to justify various technology choices. Several independant research firms did reports comparing TCO issues. (These same research firms did studies and hundreds of different business related issues from accounting systems, to evaluating purchase Vs. Lease, etc. Companies such as IDG and Gartner ) I would purchase these reports, or get them from collegues in the industry and use them as backup documentation when arguing my case in front of various technology boards. These documents were over a 100 pages. They polled hundreds of companies and were extremely detailed. Every study I have read, all determined that the TCO of the Mac was considerably less than PCs. They also found that running mixed platform environments was no more expensive than running Windows only environements.
I do have to add, that I have not seen an objective TCO report since the launch of OSX. My guess is that the TCO gap is narrowing a bit.
My guess is that your experience with "Macs being clunky, crash-prone, and slow" is more indicative of you working in an environment that was not properly maintained. Frequently, IT departments on a budget, hire Windows technicians who are forced to support Macs, and the basically don't have a clue about what they are doing. I recently did some consulting for FIT university in Manhattan. They had well over a hundred Macs and not one of the 10 people in the IT department was a Mac specialist.
Surprise, surprise, someone has decided to copy one of the best features of Panther into a Windows application:
WinExpose
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Mugsy and other Mac-geeks,
My G3 iBook finally gave up the ghost after valiantly chugging along after I stupidly spilled a cup of coffee on it five months ago. After my local Mac shop in the City (go Tekserve!) gave up on me, I made a desperate purchase yesterday of a replacement ibook, also G3, 900 Mhz, 384M Ram.
The new iBook comes with Panther, but I have not installed it yet. I am worried about performance on my G3 and if there is a substantial added value to having it on my machine.
Is the new Finder much much better than the old one? I don't really need any of the iLife enhancements other than iPhoto, which I already use. Why else should I install Panther?
Thanks, dude.
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Rik, i'm so sorry about your old laptop. That really bites.
Regarding upgrading to Panther. I think it will be fine on your G3.
Apple is up to the 10.3.2 update, and have released the first major security update patch. I think it is relativly safe to upgrade now. If you want to be a little more conservative, wait til 10.3.3 comes out.
I was at the MacWorld about 5 years ago right after Gates pumped a bunch of money (I think 125 Million) into Apple. Steve Jobs had Bill Gates satellite into his keynote address at MacWorld. The crowd booed.
They say politics makes for strange bedfellows. Nothing could be more true when describing the relationship between Apple and Microsoft.
Microsoft "stole" the modern operating system from Apple. Anyone who retorts that "Well, Apple stole it from Xerox" knows very little about the Xerox operating system. As an analogy, Xerox developed the first go-cart, Apple developed the first modern automobile. (For example, the original mouse was actually a very complicated device, that took over a month to learn how to use.) I used to have a shirt that said "Mac OS, the features of Windows 95 since 1984.
Microsoft stole the modern OS from Apple, and did a much better job of selling it. Apple is responsible for a significant portion of leading Microsoft technology, from the modern GUI, to TrueType, to QuickTime, to SCSI, to FireWire. Microsoft even hired the programmer that coded the original QuickTime to write the code for Windows Media. When Apple sued them, it was revealed that over 70 of the code in the first version of Windows Media was directly taken from QuickTime. By court ordered Microsft to re-write the code for Windows Media from the ground up.
The article suggests that Microsft was one of the only supporters of Apple, and developed for Apple when no one else would. This is so simplistic, it is misleading. Microsoft was developing for Apple, but they did a piss poor job, and it was so obviously calculated. I believe it was office 6 that was out for the PC, and Office 4.2.1 on the Mac. To make matters worse, when you launched Word for example on Windows, it took 7 seconds to launch, whereas on the Mac, it took over a minute and a half. This created a common perception that this was somehow a Mac problem, when in reality, this was simply do to one of the sloppiest ports of code in history. Microsoft was "helping" Apple with one hand, and stabbing them in the back with the other.
Microsoft did everything it could to put Apple out of the buisness, and it came very close to succeeding. Then the lightbulb went off for Microsoft, and they realized that if they did put Apple out of business, they would really have problems with the FCC. One of the most telling lines in the article was "Microsoft props up Apple with Office, and Apple keeps the Justice Department off Microsoft's back by offering some competition in the operating system market."
It wasn't until Microsoft realized the implications of putting Apple out of business, that they sincerely started supporting Apple. First Microsoft funneled the much needed money into Apple. Then Microsoft came out with Office 98. They actually created an independent department for creating software for the Mac. They hired a team of Apple Programers to write Office 98 from the ground up, and it was a good, strong product. There were actually features in Mac version of products that was not available in Windows version. Even currently, there are some cool features in Internet Explorer on the Mac that are not present in the Windows version, such as Download Manager and the ability to cue up practically unlimmited files for downloading.
Although I like Safari, I am upset that Microsft will not be developing IE for the Macintosh. I'm not sure if Apple came out with Safari, and then Microsoft retaliated, or if Microsoft decided not to continue developing IE for the Mac, and Apple decided to take care of it's own...I tend to think the former, and I think that was a mistake.
The article quotes someone as saying "The source suggested Apple and Microsoft have a 'marriage of convenience.'" I don't think it is convenient, I think they have been married by destiny. They need eachother. Microsoft will always be able to use it's industry leverage to really hurt Apple. If they do hurt Apple, everyone suffers, including Microsoft. First, if they hurt Apple too much, it will cause them more issues with the FCC. Moreover, as the article states, deveping Apple software is " a pretty profitable business for Microsoft." To hurt Apple, also hits a Microsoft profit center. They will almost literally be cutting off thier nose to spite their face.
I hope these two companies continue to have healthy competition while supporting eachother. It's a win/win scenerio.
Sorry it took so long to answer.
Panther is blazingly fast. If you have a copy there is no reason whatsoever not to install it on your G3 iBook unless you are using some quixotic program that doesn't have Panther support yet. ALL the major programs for mac are now Panther compatible. And aside from the new Finder (which is great), there's also Expose (which you have to see to believe), the new DVD player (way better), and all sorts of other random little improvements.
Not to mention that my bootup time was cut in half by the upgrade.
Go go go!
OK, I'm on it! I'll report on it as soon as I've played around with Panther.
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Expose is like Tivo. It's hard to explain, but once you've used it, you can't believe you lived without it.
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Hey guys. I tried to upgrade my G3 powerbook to OSX, but it kept failing and making me restart.
Marcelo, you mentioned in that other thread (that went a bit off topic) that you had a beige G3 that worked. Any idea why mine didn't?
Unfortunately I don't have the disks anymore, but I can probably get them back at some point.
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My previous iBook (G3-700) upgraded fine, for 10.1.5 to panther. No bumps at all. I did find, that after a while I craved more RAM (had 384, upgraded to 640) It worked like a dream, and made all the difference for people like me who have a zillion apps open, and still use Virtual PC ever so often.
I liked panther so much, I caved andbought myself a G4-1ghz powerbook (12") and all I can say, Ill never look back
slightly off topic, any other mac users play with bluetooth, Im sold.
Well, if your Powerbook doesn't have built-in USB, it won't run Panther. The best you can do is 10.2.8 (the latest version of Jaguar). There is a program called XPostFacto that you can use to run OS X on previously incompatible systems. I would recommend googling it and getting help there.
There is also a website that was really helpful called lowendmac.com that catalogues all the old macs and gives you tips on running them correctly.
I'm sorry I can't help you anymore than that, without seeing it I don't know exactly what the problem is.
Just got the Sony Ericsson T616 phone, and am having trouble getting it to work w/my 1gHz 12" Powerbook.
It worked once, sort of--it imported most but not all of my contacts. Now my Powerbook can't even find the damn thing at all.
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more.
What are you using to sync them up - iSync?
I use Bluetooth on my Sony Ericsson t68i and it works like a charm. I can send photos taken with the phone to my computer, I can make lil cellphone backgrounds in photoshop and send them back to the phone, I have my contacts all synced up.
If you have a bluetooth phone, you MUST get Salling Clicker - it is THE Bluetooth phone app you've been waiting for - use your cellphone as a remote control in iTunes, DVD player, Powerpoint, Keynote, whatever you want - and it's like a 10 dollar piece of software - definitely worth the price. You have to see it to believe it. It's freaking amazing.
I think I just figured that out...now, where to find this app that I have been hearing about all over the place?
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more.
I'm bummed that I use Sprint, who are apparently afraid of Bluetooth (there are no Bluetooth phones available thorugh Sprint).
I really would like a Bluetooth mouse for my 12" PB...but not the Apple one. I need a multi-button. And the only multi-button Bluetooth mouse I have seen has been the Microsoft one..which I don't want to get (I have MS "wired" mice and love them, but everything I've read about the BT MS mouse says it just eats batteries like candy).
We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!
Thanks for the help on OSX. I'll try that stuff out when I get my hands on the disk again.
Meanwhile, I have another question about USB. I need to find a way to connect my digital camera, which only has usb to my computer. Unfortunately, one of my pc card slots is broken and the other is used by my modem (and last time I ejected it, I almost didn't get it back in, so I don't see that as an option).
ONCE I saw a usb device to serial adapter, but since then no store I've gone to has heard of it, and any web searches I've done only give me adapters going the other direction (serial device to usb). Can I just use one of those adapters combined with a male/female serial adapter?
Or will that just tick off the gods of Best Buy?
Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow
Mugs,
Logiech's got a new bluetooth mouse out (it's the MX 900 over here). I've used it and it works like a charm.
Zooey,
How's the performance of Virtual PC on the G3 700. I have one, and DP on the desktop. I've shied away from running it on the iBook. Is it bearable? How long does it take to boot XP. (BTW my iBook has 640MB of RAM.)
Later,
Mark
It's not really their fault. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA-based carriers. So, they have wait for Qualcomm to come out with a CDMA chipset with Bluetooth built-in. Qualcomm is being <I>really</I> slow about it.
They have them. Try ordering online and you might find what you're looking for. The best place to get a good price on hardware is pricewatch.com
I second the Logitech MX series. I have the MX700 (the infrared version of the 900) and it's fantastic. The IR receiver doubles as a battery charger.
Ok, I got GarageBand on Friday...it's superfly.
I also got the Jam Pack, which is causing me grief.
I have a 12" 1 Ghz PB, and drive space on my internal hard drive is pretty tight. However, I have 370 GB of space on external drives (used for my video editing, etc).
So I figured no worries, I'll just point Jam Pack to one of the external drives - seeing as it's just a bunch of loops and instruments, shouldn't be a problem.
Nope. The installer insists on installing it on a drive with OS X installed on it. Why? What is the purpose of this? It seems that none of Apple's installers allow you to put any of the "stuff" from the app on any drive but the system drive. Which can start to be a pain for us smaller drive folks :)
Thoughts?
We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!
do you have os x installed on the external as a backup? that might work. If not, no idea.
How big is it? I want to get the jam pack but I'm wondering if it's worth the cost.
No, I don't have any OS on either of my external drives. Might not be a bad idea though - even if just to fool some apps into getting installed there.
Jam Pack is like 3 GB I think. GB itself took up about 2.5 or 3 GB. FYI - you cannot install GB without a DVD drive - the iLife 04 software came with both a CD install, and a DVD install. The CD install does NOT include GB.
We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!
I'm having Font Book problems. I am running Panther on my Powerbook G4. I like Font Book much better than Suitcase (which I have) or ATM Deluxe (which I don't have for Panther).
I've been trying to add fonts as I have copied over a bunch from archive disks and had to import some for some freelance work I am doing.
I had Font Book running pretty well until I tried to deactivate all of the fonts I didn't need open, and now the window is blank and it times for up to 15 minutes. Then it doesn't even respond to any commands of any kind.
The support section of Apple.com offers no advice of the sort.
What do I do?
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more.
Whatever you do, DO NOT swap out any apple parts for PC parts (or joke about doing so), or you are going to hell!
Thanks for the tip, Andy.
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