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This is the thread for all you Mac geeks out there... First topic: Jobs's keynote at MWSF and the associated announcements. New PowerBooks - 12" and 17" models Airport Extreme - Apple's implementation of 802.11g Keynote - Presentation software (what Jobs has been using for the last…

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mrz mrz
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  • Post #151
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Wombat"
But I'm one of the many people that would have bought an iPod if it had a radio. Walkmans have had radios for years, even CD players have them now. I'm not asking them to build a cell phone in, I'm asking them to add a tuner, when they already have the rest of the infrastructure there.

I'd have to agree with this. One of the number one iPod uses is listening to music while working out. That can sometimes mean you're in a gym. At many gyms, the TV's are muted with their audio rebroadcasted on some FM radio channel. So if the iPod had a radio you could be bopping along to your own music on the treadmills and then if you see something cool on the TV, you could switch to radio mode and watch TV. I don't see this as adding too much crap onto the iPod so much as making a common experience with it much better.

This seems like a very logical extension to me and the fact is, all the electronics for a half decent FM radio already fit on a very very very tiny chip with a low pin count that can be controlled via some stupid low pin count protocol like i2c. This cannot be a difficult thing to add to the iPod hardware-wise.

Maybe they think this is an add-on for a third party. However, I've seen lots of radio transmitters for the iPod but no radio receivers. Has anybody seen one?

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  • Post #152
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "FoolsRun"
Let me know what you find. I was looking at it at 4:00am this morning and was too overtired to commit to something that required my social security number and a review by people at Apple.

I'll check it out. Jobs already owns my eternal soul, so I'm not worried about giving them my SSN (they have it already somewhere I'm sure).

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #153
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Mugsy Malone"
Quoted from "FoolsRun"
Let me know what you find. I was looking at it at 4:00am this morning and was too overtired to commit to something that required my social security number and a review by people at Apple.
I'll check it out. Jobs already owns my eternal soul, so I'm not worried about giving them my SSN (they have it already somewhere I'm sure).

Well yeah, I was more concerned about inadvertently breaking their license agreement. I don't want to turn my site into an iTMS store, I just want to be able to put a banner up on rotation, or have a sub-page dedicated to the program with a few recommended CDs on it.

I wouldn't be high volume for them and I'm afraid that's what they might be looking for.

-- M

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  • Post #154
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "mrz"
Maybe they think this is an add-on for a third party. However, I've seen lots of radio transmitters for the iPod but no radio receivers. Has anybody seen one?

The only thing I've seen is this. But that's not really ideal - it would be cool if it integrated into the iPod so you could manipulate the tuner, etc, from the iPod interface somehow.

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

mrz mrz
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  • Post #155
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Mugsy Malone"
The only thing I've seen is this. But that's not really ideal - it would be cool if it integrated into the iPod so you could manipulate the tuner, etc, from the iPod interface somehow.

I agree. That's a nice little tchockey but it would be better if the radio could clip right onto the iPod and you could have a UI to do digital tuning, store favorite stations w/ volume levels, etc.

Anybody want to start a company? :)

The big problem, though, is that the number of add-ons to an iPod are effectively one. I wonder what the protocol is between the add-ons and the iPod? Is it firewire? Something else? At least if it was firewire, there'd be a chance to make a reeeealy thin FM radio add-on that other addons could snap onto. Stackable add-ons! Then people could joke about the "length" of their iPod :wink:

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  • Post #156
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "mrz"
Anybody want to start a company? :) The big problem, though, is that the number of add-ons to an iPod are effectively one. I wonder what the protocol is between the add-ons and the iPod? Is it firewire? Something else? At least if it was firewire, there'd be a chance to make a reeeealy thin FM radio add-on that other addons could snap onto. Stackable add-ons! Then people could joke about the "length" of their iPod :wink:

I've been trying to find a white paper on the dock connector, but no luck as of yet. I assume it's Firewire (the 1st gen iPods just had a 6 pin Firewire connector that plugged directly into the Mac).

Actually, now that I think of it...the add-ons do NOT connect via the Dock connector, right? Don't they plug right into the headphone jack? This must be the "remote connector" they talk about on the specs page.

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #157
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)

If you take a look, you'll notice it is NOT a standard headphone jack, although standard headphones do work. There is a "ring" connector around the outside of the "nomral" connector that allows you to use the wired remote, etc.

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  • Post #158
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 (7 years ago)

The dock connector is a redesigned firewire plug. There's actually an adaptor that converts the two you can get.

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  • Post #159
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Marcelo"
The dock connector is a redesigned firewire plug. There's actually an adaptor that converts the two you can get.

Yeah, I think the new question is...what's the specs on the headphone connector, as that's where the accessories (such as iTrip) connect into.

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #160
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)

And FR - I tried to sign up for the affiliate program last night, but never got through; it kept hanging. Granted I was using Firefox on my Mac - maybe it would work better with Safari :)

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #161
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)

Actually, it looks like the iPod's external remote accessory has a plug for you to insert headphones ... so you could get that little FM headphone reciever ... now you've got me thinking ...

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  • Post #162
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "LindyChef"
Actually, it looks like the iPod's external remote accessory has a plug for you to insert headphones ... so you could get that little FM headphone reciever ... now you've got me thinking ...

Why not just plug the FM headphone receiver right into the iPod?

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #163
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)

The audio plug for the iPod is a standard 1/8" (mini) audio jack. It's the little doohickey on the side that gives the accesories like iTrip remote capabilities, as well as preventing the phones from slipping out.

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  • Post #164
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Marcelo"
The audio plug for the iPod is a standard 1/8" (mini) audio jack. It's the little doohickey on the side that gives the accesories like iTrip remote capabilities, as well as preventing the phones from slipping out.

That's my question - what's the doohickey?

We are the keepers of Funny, the Judges, the Whisperers. We are Superior Naysayers And Rebukers of Knavery. We are SNARK. - Boosh!

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  • Post #165
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Mugsy Malone"
Quoted from "LindyChef"
Actually, it looks like the iPod's external remote accessory has a plug for you to insert headphones ... so you could get that little FM headphone reciever ... now you've got me thinking ...
Why not just plug the FM headphone receiver right into the iPod?

I could, but I like the idea of having an inline remote if I put the thing somewhere on my person and don't want to hold it in my hand.

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  • Post #166
  • Originally posted Friday, September 3, 2004 (7 years ago)

The doohickey isn't standard, it's proprietary. It feeds remote control info to the iPod, while the headphone jack itself does audio.

Griffin and other companies who use the doohickey pay a small licensing fee to use it.

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  • Post #167
  • Originally posted Wednesday, September 8, 2004 (7 years ago)

I'm tempted to cross post in Car Talk, but this is interesting.

http://www.mujmac.cz/art/hw/tatra_mac_eng.html G4 intergrated into a car, a Tatra.

Maybe I can use my unused old bluebox in my blue bug? I'd love to see what the cars computer can tell me about performance.

As of yet though I don't know of any non PC VAG software (Volkswagen Audi Group).

Any hints???

been away too long

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  • Post #168
  • Originally posted Wednesday, September 8, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "PitStopPete"
I'm tempted to cross post in Car Talk, but this is interesting. http://www.mujmac.cz/art/hw/tatra_mac_eng.html G4 intergrated into a car, a Tatra.

Damn, that's tight ... I bow to a true geek!

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  • Post #169
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 23, 2004 (7 years ago)

I got an iPod today ... 4G 20GB for 200 ... it's the real deal ... damn Steve Jobs and his techie crack ... I feel so dirty ...

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  • Post #170
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 23, 2004 (7 years ago)

whimper I sooo want to get a mac to replace my PC stuff. Anyone have a lonely Mac out there in need of a good, loving home?

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  • Post #171
  • Originally posted Thursday, September 23, 2004 (7 years ago)

I do. It's not that amazing though. It could use some substantial upgrading, but I have successfully run OS X 10.2 Jaguar on it.

What I have is an old PowerPC G3 300MHz (Beige) tower with monitor, sitting in my closet. It comes with a buttload of RAM and a 40 gig hard drive. I used to use it to serve music to my stereo, but the power consumption was too costly for such a small function. It would make an excellent computer for anyone who doesn't want SERIOUS power.

I rescued her from the USC Film School Sound Dept, where she used to run Pro Tools 5.1 (pretty heavy stuff) and do massive sound editing, so she's been through the paces. The CD drive works fine, there's also a working floppy disk drive. No USB (you'd have to add that yourself), but there's an ethernet card and a decent video card (although you might want to replace that too).

If you want to make it anywhere near as good as it can be, you'd probably have to put a few hundred bucks into it for a processor upgrade, video card upgrade, and then a USB/Firewire card. It's got plenty of RAM. You would need a program called XPostFacto to run Panther or Tiger on it. But if you upgrade it to a G4/500 and add USB capability you shouldn't have a problem.

I almost was gonna get a matching monitor (the kind the G3's used to come with) and run OS9 on it, just for fun. Too bad there isn't a program in OS 9 that can do iTunes music sharing. All in all, if you're the type for restoration and modding, you might have some good fun bringing this old workhorse up to speed.

PM me if you're interested in taking it off my hands.

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  • Post #172
  • Originally posted Wednesday, November 3, 2004 (7 years ago)

I need a distraction from politics...well, even if to a different form of politics.

Mac Takes Honors as Best Unix Desktop

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols October 13, 2004

Opinion: GNOME is nice, KDE is fine and the forthcoming Looking Glass may be wonderful, but the best Unix desktop is the one in the Macintosh.

When I first started using Unix, my favorite "desktop" was the Korn shell. It's still my favorite command line interface.

As the years went by and interfaces grew graphical, I grew fond of SCO's Open Desktop. Or, as I sometimes called it on days when my top-of-the-line ATI Ultra card with its 1MB of RAM was grinding away at putting a glorious 256-color display on my monitor, Open Deathtrap.

Then, along came Linux, and life got a lot better. I've used both KDE and GNOME and a host of more obscure Linux desktops such as Enlightenment. These days, though, I've become a confirmed KDE user.

Click here to read about the latest and greatest from both GNOME and KDE.

Of course, none of these is even close to being in the running for the best Unix desktop.

No, the best Unix desktop is Aqua, and you'll find it running on any Mac running Mac OS 10.x.

Click here to see a preview of Mac OS X 10.4, aka Tiger.

Somewhere along the line, we over in the Linux/Unix/AIX/Solaris world seem to have forgotten that Macs are now Unix workstations.

Under every bright, shiny Mac desktop beats a Unix heart named Darwin. Darwin, in turn, is built on top of Mach 3.0 operating-system services, which run on top of the 4.4 BSD Unix operating system.

KDE and GNOME have both gotten much better, but let's get real. They're not even in the same ballpark.

It comes down to fundamentals. Linux desktops come from developers whose primary interest has always been building powerful tools that give the informed user almost limitless power over how his or her machine works. The key words here are "informed" and "power."

Today's Mac desktop comes from decades of a different design philosophy, where ease of use is all.

Now, as someone with more then 20 years in Unix/Linux, I appreciate what the KDE/GNOME designers are doing, and I know lots of other Linux and Solaris power users do, too.

But most desktop users, and certainly most enterprise desktop users, are not power users. They want their systems to be easy to use and for their applications to work. To them, the fact that GNOME configuration management editor GConf-editor lets a GNOME power user fine-tune everything on the desktop to their fondest wishes is less than meaningless it's useless.

Today's business users also want the applications they already know. StarOffice and OpenOffice are all fine and good but, like it or lump it, most users want the applications they know from Windows, and the Mac gives them most of those. Indeed, Microsoft just released the first service pack for Microsoft Office 2004 for the Mac.

Yes, as I've explained before, you can run most Windows applications on Linux with programs such as my personal favorite Win4Lin, but the bottom line is that you have to go to extra trouble to run applications.

I also have recently had friends rub my nose in the fact that there's no built-in Linux desktop help that's anything close to what Macs offer, or even, dare I say it, Windows.

Just because you or I have no trouble finding help for our desktop problems using a combination of 'man' and 'apropos,' along with a 'HowTo' file we found on the Web, doesn't mean anyone else wants to go to that much trouble. Or, more to the point, that some would even know how to find an answer that way.

The default Linux approach has always been to either look up the answer, as I describe above, or to look for answers in the Linux community. That was fine when Linux was a hobby, but business users want to find their answers on the desktop, not in a LUG (Linux User Group).

I really hope Linux developers start spending more time on polishing up the desktop and improving its help systems and documentation. In the meantime, while Linux and KDE make up my preferred desktop, I think there can be really no question that the best Unix desktop for most users is Mac OS X and Aqua.

eWEEK.com Senior Editor Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has been using and writing about operating systems since the late '80s and thinks he may just have learned something about them along the way.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1675775,00.asp

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  • Post #173
  • Originally posted Sunday, November 28, 2004 (7 years ago)

Alright, I'm caving in. It's time to get a new Mac.

My old computer is an G3/233mz Powerbook Wallstreet. Still working great, but I'm stuck on OS 9.2, passive matrix screen, and no USB connections.

My needs aren't that great, nor is my budget. I certainly don't need anything new, at most DVD capable and occasional photoshop. Probably an G4 Imac would be plenty for my needs, but I don't know enough to be sure.

Any suggestions would be helpful, especially where to look. Is e-bay a decent option or am I better off with normal retailers?

If I think of more questions I'll post them.

Thanks.

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #174
  • Originally posted Sunday, November 28, 2004 (7 years ago)

The 999 dollars 12-inch iBook is a goddamn STEAL.

Check it out.

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  • Post #175
  • Originally posted Monday, November 29, 2004 (7 years ago)

Yikes, thats about double what I was hoping to spend. Like I said, I'm not a heavy user, so I'm not afraid of older models.

On the other hand, I did some quick searching and found that many of the older model Ibooks are going for about that same range, so if this is a new one, you may be right about just going for it.

Can you give me the specs of the one you're talking about for comparison's sake? Also what are my best bets for retailers? Direct from mac or elsewhere?

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #176
  • Originally posted Monday, November 29, 2004 (7 years ago)

direct from mac, or refurbished from a place like smalldog.com

you can find out the specs yourself at apple.com.

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  • Post #177
  • Originally posted Wednesday, December 1, 2004 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Marcelo"
The 999 dollars 12-inch iBook is a goddamn STEAL.

Stolen! :D

Plus I mentioned I had recently worked as a substitute teacher and they knocked 50 bucks off.

And thanks to their current promotion I also got this printer free: That's right, for the first time since dot matrix was cool, there will be an actual printer in my home. Bonus! 8)

Unfortunately I couldn't get around the tax issue, but I guess the gov. has to steal their share too.

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #178
  • Originally posted Wednesday, December 1, 2004 (7 years ago)

congrats! I might pick up one of those myself soon.

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  • Post #179
  • Originally posted Thursday, December 2, 2004 (7 years ago)

Cool. The printer promotion is running until Jan 10 and can be used with other Epson printers too. It's actually a 100 rebate which can be applied to any one they have, but this model happens to be 100 so... free printer.

If you don't need one at all, I suppose you could still get it as a present or dump it on ebay for a few bucks.

I'm just starting to wish I had dropped the change for the faster delivery. Now that I've bought it I don't want to wait a week. Too late now though. :(

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #180
  • Originally posted Sunday, January 9, 2005 (7 years ago)

Okay, so the MacWorld keynote is coming up on Tuesday. Here's what we know (based on the lawsuits Apple is filing to keep the leaks from leaking):

  • a sub-500 dollar cheap Mac will be unveiled, aimed at Windows users who love the iPod, want to switch, but want cost-competitiveness.

  • a breakout box for the GarageBand application - firewire based, containing XLR/TRS inputs, etc. Sorta like a low-end mBox.

  • an office productivity suite to compete with MS Office, called iWork (I guess they're ending support for Appleworks?)

  • A partnership with Motorola to produce phones that will play iTunes-purchased music with an iPod-like interface.

I'm hoping for a Tiger release date in there.

What's really sad is that there will be no live webcast this year. I love the live webcast. It's like a tradition with macheads that you get up early and stream the webcast. Last year my girlfriend at the time and I stayed in bed and streamed it and watched it together.

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