So Marcelo and I are im-ing while reading the updates from MacNN on Jobs's keynote...

Please note that I have done a little editing in the interests of flow <i>Final Cut Expres HD video editing suite introduced...adds LiveType for animated tiling. Sountrack for custom music. Seamlessly integrates with iMovie files and Motion. Priced at 299. Available in February. 99 upgrade from Final Cut Express [strangely no audience reaction] [9:44 PT]</i> Marcelo: express HD yawn Mugsy: yeah, that's really gotta be the most useless product ever Mugsy: who needs HD, but doesn't need the other fcp features? Marcelo: well I've got all these home movies I've shot in HD Marcelo: you know, really basic stuff I'd love to edit but I just don't have the time. Mugsy: maybe iLife '06 will have iMovie HD Marcelo: Quicktime HD Marcelo: you can add it to non video applications Marcelo: Quicken HD Marcelo: Microsoft Word HD Mugsy: Maelstrom HD Mugsy: The Sims HD Mugsy: TextEdit HD Marcelo: Terminal HD Mugsy: Open Firmware HD <i>iLife '05 features major upgrades for each application. iPhoto features project folders subfolders. Calendar view to search for things by day/month/year. Supports MPEG-4 movies. New iPhoto supports RAW, a feature found in high-end digital cameras. New editing tools, including quick thumbnail view of photos in library. Integrated with Dashboard for quick, easy editing of both JPEG and RAW photos. Jobs offers demo of new iPhoto. Impressive editing tools for rotate/zoom. Can view/organize MPEG movies (from digital cameras, etc.). Dashboard integration instantly offers advanced tools. More advanced slideshows. New Way to make books (soft cover, four different sizes, double the number of pages, ranging 4- 30). Apple will cut price to 0.29 per print (cut in half). [9:58 PT]</i> Marcelo: ooo. the rotate/zoom tools for iPhoto are "impressive" Mugsy: every time I see "impressive", it makes me think of Mortal Kombat Marcelo: Mortal Kombat HD <i>New iMovie. Now edits HD video. Also offers..Magic iMovie, MPEG-4 video, new transition &amp; effects, and more. [9:59 PT]</i> Marcelo: HA!!!! Marcelo: IMOVIE HD!!!!!

Some updates:

01:33 PM - Introducing the Mac mini -- ThinkSecret was right! 01:34 PM - The Mac mini looks like a 3" tall CD drive. A short cube. All the connections, DVI and VGA. 01:34 PM - The Mac mini fits in the palm of your hand. Hook it into your own keyboard and mouse, or Apple's. Comes with Panther and iLife 05. Price point: 499 599. 01:36 PM - Mac mini is in stores January 22nd.

01:50 PM - iPod Shuffle: really tiny (smaller than most packs of gum), no screen, weighs under 1 ounce. Cap on the bottom, USB 2. 12 hour rechargeable battery. PC/Mac. Looks about the size of a flash key drive. 01:53 PM - Autofill: button in iTunes to make a playlist sized for the iPod shuffle. You can also manually fill it. You can also use the iPod Shuffle as a USB flash drive (choose how much for songs how much for data). 01:54 PM - 2 models: 512MB for 99 and 1GB for 149.99. 01:54 PM - Shipping starting today. Accessories rolling out in the next four weeks

I dig the idea of the Mac Mini, though I wonder about what it might be good for.

What would you use a Mac Mini for that wouldn't be better served by a powerbook or an ibook? Maybe for your average bookkeeper or secretary...

-- M

Quoted from "FoolsRun"
What would you use a Mac Mini for that wouldn't be better served by a powerbook or an ibook? Maybe for your average bookkeeper or secretary...

It's super cheap portable computer.

We were just talking about this at work. Most of us have laptops, but a lot of us never use the "mobile" feature - we just use the "portable."

If I could have a smaller computer that I could just bring home and plug into the monitor there, I'd dig it.

Mostly, it's geared towards switchers though. A cheap Mac that works with your existing PC monitor and keyboard/mouse. It's an iPod accessory :)

Quoted from "FoolsRun"
I dig the idea of the Mac Mini, though I wonder about what it might be good for. What would you use a Mac Mini for that wouldn't be better served by a powerbook or an ibook? Maybe for your average bookkeeper or secretary... M

I'm thinking of buying one. I don't need a laptop, don't like them usually, and don't have a place for one at home. The mini is so damn small it will fit easily in a corner of my desk, and hooks up through a KVM that I already have.

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Quoted from "FoolsRun"
Next issue with the MacMini, it only has 256MB DDR memory. I know this wouldn't be nearly enough to run even iTunes and FireFox simultaniously in XP without some slowdown, is this enough on a mac?

At 500, it has 256MB. You can upgrade it to 512 or 1GB.

Quoted from "FoolsRun"
Okay, I can dig it as an iPod accessory. I guess it'd make a pretty good "living-room computer", too. Or plug in a giant USB hard drive and make it a music server for your iPod and AirTunes Express... Okay, I'm getting a little more of the idea.

Also, I've heard some speculation that this could also be a small push for the business market. Same idea as mentioned elsewhere- they've already got monitors and keyboards, so it never made sense for them to buy iMacs or eMacs en masse.

Quoted from "Marcelo"
I don't like the iPod Shuffle though. Not enough features to be competitive, although the price point and the size are impressive.

Before the iPod Mini was released, the flash player market was double what it is today. That means the iPod Mini did NOT canibalize hard drive player/iPod sales but instead got Flash player buyers to spend more money on buying a Mini and claimed the upper end of the Flash Player market.

This means the iPod Shuffle is being sent in to sweep up the low end market where people are buying 49 128 MB players.

I used to have a 512MB CF player. Bigger than the shuffle, for sure, but I can't imagine working it without a display.

Skip!

The mini WAS stupid.

But people bought it. It was, like I said, a masterpiece of product design, not of product performance. Hell, I held one in my hands and said "I want this...so badly." Maybe that'll happen with the shuffle. Without a screen though, I doubt it.

And as I just sold my 10 gig iPod for a hundred bucks, I'm in the market for a new one. I'm not too big of a fan of the 4G design yet, so I'm cautious.

The little (2) footnote from Rik's "gum" picture reads "Do not eat iPod Shuffle'.

I am not making this up.

Quoted from "Mugsy Malone"
The little (2) footnote from Rik's "gum" picture reads "Do not eat iPod Shuffle'. I am not making this up.

yeah we saw that once it was posted and have made fun of that all day

Yeah the mini looks like a home run for Apple.

One thing I don't get about Macs is the constant upgrading licensing. You're up to what, 10.4 now? It seems like every minor revision number is a "must have," and costs you 99 here, 99 there. In my limited Mac experience, this seems analogous to paying for Windows service packs. Please help me understand.