I know, after watching the movie I was so infuriated with Fox for cancelling the series. It definitely felt like they were ending it completely. Pretty much all the loose ends were either tied up or at least burnt off. Man, I can't believe they killed Book! I had so many questions about his history and background. ::sigh:: Oh well, at least it was an awesome movie. I watched it twice yesterday and both times I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. It was so intense. Oh, and I got the most teary when Zoe came out in that white dress at the end.....oh man that was so sad.

The rest of the crew is stll alive and in one place. In every Joss-verse, characters you want to get together never get to stay together, so there's gotta be plans for Simon and Kaylee still, at least.

MB

This is the only movie I've ever watched where I truly believed that they were going to kill everybody. They killed Book, crashed the ship, and killed Wash. After that, I really thought they were going to kill Zoe, Kaylee, Simon, and River, too. It was an unbelievable ride.

Too many people have never heard of Firefly or Serenity to have this movie be any kind of success. It's a shame. I know the fans are going to pay to watch the movie at least twice and it's still going to be a box office bomb.

yeah i thought they were all going to die.

Quoted from "dancer2k2"
i got really teary when the ship got all torn apart. sigh...

Me too. I was actually more upset when that was happening than when Wash got run through. But part of that is Wash happened so quick, and there was still that part of me that thought, "Nah, he'll be ok!" The ship on the other hand, you're watching piece by piece get torn off. Each one was, "OH NO!" I became human again at the funeral.

Quoted from "DanceGeek"
I can't believe they killed Book! I had so many questions about his history and background. ::sigh::

I had that same problem. But I think he might have been hinting that perhaps he was once a "believer" like the guy who was hunting them and went through a similar event. Maybe this guy will end up picking up Book's mantle.

Two specifics I was hoping for that didn't happen:

What was Inara's kit in the pilot when they thought they were going to be boarded by the Reavers? Joss said in the commentary that we would assume it was a suicide kit, but really it was a lot more interesting than that. I'd have to see it again, but I thought perhaps it was the exploding incense, but that just doesn't seem interesting or useful enough given how he talked about it.

No shadow puppets. Or if there was any mention then I just missed it. Bummer. At least we did get one classic Wash moment. (don't remember exaclty) "I am a leaf falling off a tree." "What the hell does that mean?" :lol:

Thank God. I was going to explode.

I've seen it twice now. The first time, I left the theater in a bit of a tirade. The movie had such an air of finality, and I think I've been holding out hope that this will be successful and inspire more films or a reincarnation of the series. With everything being so intense, and the killing off of two of the major characters, I felt that wasn't very possible.

I enjoyed the second time much more. And, talking to a fellow Firefly fanatic, I think they actually opened up some interesting possibilities for future films in terms of fighting the Alliance, or a resurgence of the war for independence. There are definitely enough open ends to pick up on. We'll see how it fairs in the box office. I don't think looking at Friday's, or this weekend's, numbers is a good measure. This will, I think, continue to be a word-of-mouth underdog film. We'll see.

I loved River, particularly knowing that she did most of her own stunts/moves. :) I was disappointed that Kaylee was such a minor part, her one great sex line notwithstanding. Jayne was his usual awesomeness. Baldwin just nails that role, and it never ceases to crack me up. By far my favorite character. Zoe's reaction to Wash's death was classic Zoe. Inara is really the only character that I worry wasn't adequately explained for non Firefly fans, and her role was somewhat boring, imho. The film was clearly Mal's film, and Fillion carried it well I think. With any luck, this will be a break-out film for him.

Random thoughts: The opening title sequence was great, and I think introduced the characters spectacularly well. Fantastic (duh) writing throughout the film. I loved turning the Reavers on the Alliance, and the crash scene was great. The end was a little apocalyptic, but I expect nothing less from Joss Whedon.

Going to see it again next weekend. :)

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Quoted from "DanceGeek"
I can't believe they killed Book! I had so many questions about his history and background. ::sigh::

I had that same problem. But I think he might have been hinting that perhaps he was once a "believer" like the guy who was hunting them and went through a similar event. Maybe this guy will end up picking up Book's mantle.

I would love for that to happen, but I just don't think it will. I think when Mal and Book were talking and Mal said that Book would have to tell him about his past sometime and then Book said "No I don't" that was Joss telling us that there's nothing more coming from or about that character.

I didn't mean he would literally end up on the crew, just a similar path. "Hinted" is a very important word in that sentence. This is a very old writing technique. I doubt we'll actually see him at all any more than we'll see Jubal Early (who I was almost thinking they'd "bump" into still floating around out there).

Quoted from "grasshopper"
The end was a little apocalyptic, but I expect nothing less from Joss Whedon.

Really, when has Joss ever done anything apocalyptic before?

Saw the movie twice yesterday. Once with the initiated, once with the uninitiated (though a Buffy fan). Both times it was unbelievable.

I am still in awe that Joss would kill off seemingly important members of the crew. The only thing I can figure, or at least the only thought that can console me, is the belief that Joss has told his story. "Browncoats" can rest having seen their beloved show finish.

Even when (ever the optimist) the movie becomes a financial success, I don't think there's a need for a sequal. It would diminish the whole. No. This, I fear, is it for the Serenity saga.

(Besides, I couldn't cope without Book and Wash. The spark wouldn't be there for me.)

A question: Was Mr. Universe in the series? I don't remember him if he was. I ask because he was thrown in there like we were supposed to know him already. At least that's the impression I got.

And on the topic of Book, I believe that he was a believer. I go so far as to speculate that "The Operative" was specifically created by Joss as a way of expounding on Book's character.

Quoted from "grasshopper"
Mr. Universe was very comic book. He really needed a more normal name, imho. I did like the reference to the Buffy bot though. That was fun.

Gagh! I saw it twice and still missed something. Was it a direct referance to the Buffy-verse or just in the fact that there was a "Buffy Bot" there?

Well, guess I'll just have to see it again.

Well that was just about the greatest thing in the history of things.

My only complaints are with my ass-tacular theater which seems to show movies dimmer and dimmer every time I'm there. Also there was a high-pitched ringing noise behind every piece of dialogue. Did anyone else get that?

Beyond that it was amazing. I was always more of a <i>Farscape</i> person than a <i>Firefly</i> person, and it occasionally irks me that <i>Firefly</i> fans get all this credit for saving their show when, in fact, they were following the lead of the <i>Farscape</i> fans who's been working their asses off to save their own show long before <i>Firefly</i> even aired its ill-fated first season. But who cares? Both series got movies (<i>Farscape</i>'s was on TV) and they both were great.

-- M

oh, and by the way,

<img src="http://pcwranglers.com/1wash.jpg">

:cry:

-- M

I really thought everyone was gonna die. I didn't realize until other yehoodites mentioned it how huge that is. You never thought Luke or Han was gonna die. You never thought Capt. Picard was gonna die. I really did think everyone except maybe Mal was gonna die. I was positive that Simon was.

And that sets this movie apart. It reached out somehow and made me believe in a way I haven't believed since George started [bleep!]ing with his 1977 once-masterpiece. I never really got why Whedon was given such accolades as a writer. I was never hooked by Buffy or Angel and even though the Firefly series was good, I find LOST and Battlestar more engaging on average.

But this movie convinced me. The <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/pvp/77da/">shirt</a> speaks the truth.

Oh, and a guy two rows in front of me cheered when Wash died. Also cheered when Simon got shot. He probably also cheered when Bambi's mom was killed. I'm gonna say he pulls the legs off of insects, too.

-- M

I think that Joss' strongest suit is keeping it unpredictable, yet extremely entertaining. And I think he did this perfectly when he killed Wash and Shepard. First off, by killing them, it didn't adhere to the typical Hollywood ending where all the good guys make it out alive.

And then by doing that, you had no idea if he was going to do it again. And who else might be next.

I knew that River was going to be A-OK on the other side of the wall, but other than that, I quite enjoyed this rollercoaster w/o knowing where the tracks were going.

Ditto to the last few posts about Josh and killing off characters. I pretty much thought he was going to go ahead and kill off everyone too, and I was sitting there wondering why the preview folks hadn't screamed in anger. The man will do anything if it helps him tell the story. If anyone says they weren't shocked when Wash was killed... and stunned for a good 5-10 minutes more about it, they're lying.

Still. ( . I LIKED Wash. Why couldn't they have killed Simon? He's pretty useless and annoying. I could have done without him, and I think River could have survived with the crew without him. Can we kill him off in the next movie? Pretty please?

Point of discussion - What do you think about River's development as a character? I didn't like her much at first, but ever since Objects in Space, I've had renewed faith in the actress. I think it's a tough part to play, and I think she does it really well. Some of my friends disagree. :) I'm glad she had such a big role in the film, though I think it was at the expense of others (Kaylee and Inara in particular).

I've drunk from the Joss Kool-Aid. I'm ok with that.