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Noral Virus Thead

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What the h*ll .. it's time to move this discusion out of the "old farts" thread.

Most of the info I've learned through discussion with other people who came down with this, but there was a site I found in early January that I haven't been able to find since that included the only medical info I've found so far:

  • The major symptoms last for about 3 days, but you are contagious for at least 2 more. (The disease spreads like wildfire.) There is no known treatment for the Noral Virus except to tough it out with rest and a lot of fluids.

From other people I have compared notes with, here are the symptoms:

  1. The 3 day major symptom phase acts like a typical norovirus for many who get it. The major difference is many don't get nausea. All (to be at least somewhat discreet) find it good to keep a lot reading material by the john.

Here are the unique aspects:

  1. The virus is gone in less than a week, but the symptoms keep re-appearing for at least a month in many cases. I'm not a doctor, so I can't say for sure why, but personally I think it's some kind of autoimmune reaction that takes time to resolve itself. On person I chatted with this online mentioned that a week and a half after she had the disease she went into work and shortly afterwards was driving the porcelein bus again. She was sent home.

  2. You lose your appetite and energy while this is going on. You also require ridiculus amounts of sleep. One westie dancer I talked to about this mentioned a colleague at work who couldn't get out of bed for a week. It can take a long time to get appetite back enough to eat a full meal.

  3. Being young and strong doesn't necessarily help much. One person with these multiweek symptoms I know is only 19 years old.

Again, I admit this info is largely "anecdotal", but considering I have found over a half dozen people among my circle of friends that have had these symptoms, I don't think we are talking about your typical so-called "stomach flu" here.

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  • Post #1
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

You started your own thread for this! :spineyes:

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  • Post #2
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

I think you're probably talking about the Norovirus family.

Here's info from the CDC.

If you get it, it's wicked nasty. If your digestive system is sensitive, it'd probably be pretty brutal. It's been going showing up in the community here in larger numbers since last fall, with a couple of advisories reminding people to wash their hands to prevent the spread.

I had it last month, no early symptoms, just suddenly really sick for about 8 hours, then queezy for about another 8 and then better. I usually get over minor stomach flu or food poisoning quickly but this was the worst.

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  • Post #3
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

This is hilarious.

Racetrack, it's a typo. Since your information here is based on googled blogs and your friends, I'd highly suggest calling your doctor, since you clearly aren't going to believe any of us on this. There is no such thing as a "noral" virus. It's people misspelling Norovirus.

Wombat, I agree.... :spineyes:

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  • Post #4
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

Maybe he means the NORAD Virus?

Yeah, I know it's really an AI that took over, not a virus, but whatever.

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #5
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

Perhaps it's a worm, not a virus?

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  • Post #6
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Toon Town Dave"
Perhaps it's a worm, not a virus?

Like dees?

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  • Post #7
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

I love Yehoodi.

That is all.

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  • Post #8
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

That cold sore may be caused by an oral virus.

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  • Post #9
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

A whole THEAD dedicated to the NORAL virus? :spineyes:

That's one hell of a speech impediment you've got there, man.

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  • Post #10
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

I love that if you Google "Noral Virus" Yehoodi is the 4th hit. You're all medical experts!

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  • Post #11
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

I think you meant to say, "YOUR all medical experts."

Get with the program.

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  • Post #12
  • Originally posted Tuesday, February 20, 2007 (7 years ago)

Don't you mean "Yoral" medical experts?

:disguise:

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  • Post #13
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

How about "Y'all'l fall from the NoRAL while playing ball in the hall"?

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  • Post #14
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Toon Town Dave"
I think you're probably talking about the Norovirus family. Here's info from the CDC. If you get it, it's wicked nasty. If your digestive system is sensitive, it'd probably be pretty brutal. It's been going showing up in the community here in larger numbers since last fall, with a couple of advisories reminding people to wash their hands to prevent the spread. I had it last month, no early symptoms, just suddenly really sick for about 8 hours, then queezy for about another 8 and then better. I usually get over minor stomach flu or food poisoning quickly but this was the worst.

This is almost definitely a virus in the norovirus family (which BTW is not an influenza virus .. but another family of viruses that have some "flu like sypmtoms"). (I actually linked to the site above in a post to the "Old Fart's Thread on this topic.) The name "Noral" is obviously based on this. It differs mainly in severity and long lasting symptoms. The scary thing is that this is a "super-norovirus". I can't prove it but I think the lack of publicity and CDC info on this specific virus may be related to avoiding increasing concerns about more serious stuff that may be on the horizon that may behave like this .. only much worse, such as human-to-human transfer bird flu. The Noral Virus is truly nasty and spreads fast, pandemic fashion, but I don't know of a single case where this thing has actually killed anyone. It just models the form that something much worse might take.

BTW -- it is quite likely this virus was named by a CNN reporter, not a medical professional. But what difference does that make? The other noroviruses only last 24 to 72 hours and then you don't have to deal with them afterwards. Something this different needs a unique name .. if any medical professional wants to weigh in on this (not just here) I'm all for it. And professional information on how best to deal with it in terms of things like diet and exercise. All the good info (like .. eat lots of bananas to fuel yourself up during difficult times) have come from friends who have had this and discovers stuff on their own.

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  • Post #15
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Racetrack: Cartoon or caricature?

Discuss.

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  • Post #16
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Atalanta"
Racetrack: Cartoon or caricature? Discuss.

<--- avoiding the temptation to type the F-WORD in all caps and tell Atalanta to get out of my thread.

Have you been taking your meds on schedule? You are impossible to deal with when you don't.

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  • Post #17
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

That's one vote for caricature.

(And go ahead... make my day.)

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  • Post #18
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Giddy with excitement

I really don't even know where to begin, but this absolutely made my morning.

Now it's a conspiracy theory? You are HILARIOUS.

Dude, 4 days ago ABC news posted an article entititled "4 States May Divert Convervation Funds." I'd link to it directly, but the article has since been taken down.

Typos happen.

Unless of course, you think the reporter was just coining a new term, perhaps for conservation with a musical twist.

Oh, and reporters can't just "name" a disease. Of course, if they could, Larry King would call dibs on something cool, like a new strain of Ebola. In the meantime, you're gonna have to rely on doctors for that job.

Speaking of which, have you called your doctor yet to verify the existence of this crazy new plague? Might wanna do that.

PS. I vote for caricature, all the way.

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  • Post #19
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Holy Moley. :o

I'm so torn - on one hand, I'm dying to just call the CDC and get the official word on this, but on the other hand, this is grade-A theater.

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  • Post #20
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Perhaps it should be called the racetrack virus, named after the expert virologist who discovered it.

Never met anyone who knows so much about everything and even more about nothing.

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  • Post #21
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Not cartoon nor caricature; just a bore.

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  • Post #22
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

All jabs at Racetrack aside ... what if this were another AIDS ... like back when AIDS first started - when no one really knew what the hell was making people so sick and eventually killing them ...

"Change your thoughts, and you change your world" - Norman Vincent Peale.

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  • Post #23
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Well, except we know what this is.

This would be like someone saying there's this horrible new disease, AIDSL. Same old disease, typoed name.

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  • Post #24
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Swifty"
Holy Moley. :o I'm so torn - on one hand, I'm dying to just call the CDC and get the official word on this, but on the other hand, this is grade-A theater.

cough

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  • Post #25
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

Racetrack, I think you need to get thyself to Gambia, and pronto for the cure!

The President of Gambia has a magical cure, I'm sure if it works for AIDS it must work for Noral Virus. Do you grow a horn out of your forehead with this virus, or is that Norwhal Virus? I always got the two confused in my virology class in college.

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  • Post #26
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Jeslett"
Racetrack, I think you need to get thyself to Gambia, and pronto for the cure! The President of Gambia has a magical cure, I'm sure if it works for AIDS it must work for Noral Virus. Do you grow a horn out of your forehead with this virus, or is that Norwhal Virus? I always got the two confused in my virology class in college.

For that matter, I'm sure judgefloro would be able to help you out.

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  • Post #27
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)

I heard you can cure it by smoking pot. Or is that the NORML virus?

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  • Post #28
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "grasshopper"
Quoted from "Swifty"
Holy Moley. :o I'm so torn - on one hand, I'm dying to just call the CDC and get the official word on this, but on the other hand, this is grade-A theater.
cough

No, you can't really prove definitively that it doesn't exist by just not finding it on the website. He's already in denial over the lack of Google results. I'm talking about a quote from the CDC saying "The what virus? You so crazy!"

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  • Post #29
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Jeslett"
Do you grow a horn out of your forehead with this virus, or is that Norwhal Virus? I always got the two confused in my virology class in college.

Now Jeslett, you should know that the narwhal's "horn" is actually a tusk, an over-grown tooth, if you will. Tusk, tsk.

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  • Post #30
  • Originally posted Wednesday, February 21, 2007 (7 years ago)
Quoted from "Monsignore"
Quoted from "Jeslett"
Do you grow a horn out of your forehead with this virus, or is that Norwhal Virus? I always got the two confused in my virology class in college.
Now Jeslett, you should know that the narwhal's "horn" is actually a tusk, an over-grown tooth, if you will. Tusk, tsk.

But, most of the info I've learned through discussion with other people who came down with this, but there was a site I found in early January that I haven't been able to find since that included the only horn info I've found so far:

The major symptoms last for about 3 days, but you are contagious for at least 2 more. (The horn spreads like wildfire.) There is no known treatment for the Narwhal Virus except to tough it out with rest and a lot of fluids, good thing you 'cause you'll find the urge to go live in the ocean.

From other people I have compared notes with, here are the symptoms:

  1. The 3 day major symptom phase acts like a typical narwhalvirus for many who get it. The major difference is many don't get two horns, only one out of every 500 males. All (to be at least somewhat discreet) find it good to keep a lot reading material by the pool or other large body of water.

Here are the unique aspects:

  1. The virus is gone in less than a week, but the symptoms keep re-appearing for at least a month in many cases. I'm not a doctor, so I can't say for sure why, but personally I think it's some kind of horn reaction that takes time to resolve itself. On person I chatted with this online mentioned that a week and a half after she had the disease she went into work and shortly afterwards was sporting a horn again. She was sent home, it doesn't fit with company dress code.

  2. You lose your appetite and energy while this is going on. You also require ridiculus amounts of protein to aid in the growth of the horn. One westie dancer I talked to about this mentioned a colleague at work who couldn't get out of bed for a week. It can take a long time to get the horn to go away in its entirety.

  3. Being young and strong doesn't necessarily help much. One person with these multiweek symptoms I know grew a 19 foot horn.

Again, I admit this info is largely "anecdotal", but considering I have found over a half dozen people among my circle of friends that have had these symptoms, I don't think we are talking about your typical so-called "tusk" here, no, this is a horn.

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