So I don't want this topic to be cruel or making fun of anyone, but I wanted everyone to share any videos they come across online of people that dance to swing music, but what the're doing is something makes you wonder where they heck they learned to dance like they do . . . (i.e. unique…
Originally posted Friday, April 27, 2007 (4 years ago)
<derail>
For those of you wondering about "The Pretzel", part 3 starts off with it. I'd consider this at least the sorta kinda nicer way to do it by asking for the follow's hand instead of making it happen.
Originally posted Monday, April 30, 2007 (4 years ago)
In defense of trained professional dancers everywhere...I consider the above example to be a shortcoming of the choreographer/director- not of the dancers.
If the choreographer had actually watched Hellzapoppin', and passed the style on to the dancers, believe me they could've made it look good, that's their job.
The problem is that few in that world knows how swing is "supposed" to look, by trad lindy standards.
Originally posted Monday, April 30, 2007 (4 years ago)
Part of that is their lack of respect for us, though, right? As you said, ballroom dancers think we have [lots of negative things]. I'm guessing Broadway dancers feel sorta similar. Or, choreographers, at least.
Originally posted Monday, April 30, 2007 (4 years ago)
I think Gary hit it on the head.
Many "real" dancers and choreographers just look at what we've spent years and years trying to perfect and go "Well, [bleep!]. That looks easy, we can totally fake our way through that without bothering to learn anything about what actual lindy hoppers look like. We wouldn't want to dirty our hands with that."
I mean, holding hands and running in a circle to imitate a swingout? seriously?
Many serious ballroom and broadway dancers would freak if they saw any of us un-trained types attempting to do what they do, because they can see the distinction. Why should it be any different when we see people (or people's work, in the case of choreographers) who seem not to give a crap about the dance that they're appropriating, the dance that we love?
Originally posted Monday, April 30, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "Lindynymph" If the choreographer had actually watched Hellzapoppin', and passed the style on to the dancers, believe me they could've made it look good, that's their job.
If by good you mean authentic color me skeptical.
I suppose I could be grossly misinformed, but doesn't part of the visual aesthetic of Lindy Hop comes from an athletic posture and a way of moving that is fundementally different from the way professional broadway dancers(professional dancers in general) are taught to dance?
Fred Astaire attempted to Lindy Hop, and the result was pretty funny if you were familiar with the actual dance.
Of course, if you mean pretty and good to the non-'lindy informed' eye than I agree completely.
Originally posted Monday, April 30, 2007 (4 years ago)
Heh. This thread is reminding me of much of the "swing dancing" that goes on in Jacksonville. If you ask around in our local scene, a lot of people will probably say that these two are some of the best dancers.
Now, those are two terribly nice people, and the girl is the one that got me into swing in the first place, but they're dancing the exact same way they did when I met them in 1998. There are a select few people in the scene that have grown and evolved, but that's the exception, not the rule. These are people that go out dancing fairly often, and yes, that's pretty much how they dance on the social floor, but with just a slightly lower frequency of ariels.
Originally posted Tuesday, May 1, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "Addict"
If by good you mean authentic color me skeptical.
I suppose I could be grossly misinformed, but doesn't part of the visual aesthetic of Lindy Hop comes from an athletic posture and a way of moving that is fundementally different from the way professional broadway dancers(professional dancers in general) are taught to dance?
Let me put it this way: Professional dancers are trained often in many dances, but most of their success (in terms of being solidly employed) is derived from their versatility. It is their JOB to perform the choreographer's vision. Dancers in broadway shows often also have work in music videos, iPod commercials, N-Sync concert tours. The [bleep!]cat Dolls are ex-ballerinas. Pro dancers are trained to move their body in the character of the dance they are doing, which is what makes Alvin Ailey different from a Jay Z music video, but many dancers have had employment in both.
My point in my first post was this: If Steven Mitchell had choreographed and directed a lindy piece with those dancers, it would have looked great, because the right direction would've put those bodies to work in exactly the way we would like to see lindy look.
You can see that and more for only 22 euros (almost 30)! :green:
This is truely a gem of this discussion - I didn't recognize any "swing" moves or even "the swing" moves until the couple came out and danced. And was there a little hula bit in there?
Originally posted Friday, May 4, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "aklamo" This, I believe, hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLtoErqAtw&NR=1
note that it is listed under 'comedy' ...
It looks like this is the event that the kids in the blue shirts from a few pages ago were auditioning for. And do my eyes deceive me, or did they make it (one of the kids looks like he could be the one in the audition)? I even almost see a Charleston swingout.
You can see that and more for only 22 euros (almost 30)! :green:
This is truely a gem of this discussion - I didn't recognize any "swing" moves or even "the swing" moves until the couple came out and danced. And was there a little hula bit in there?
Well, they did do some Charleston and jazz steps in the beginning, but it was hard to tell between all the hopping, bouncing ponytails and ginormous skirts.
Originally posted Tuesday, May 8, 2007 (4 years ago)
Oh my Lord. That hurt, and not because of the dancing. I couldn't finish it. I kept expecting her to snap in half like a little twig (and I didn't know Shelley Duval had a teenage daughter...).
Originally posted Wednesday, May 9, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "Capt Morgan" All I could do was laugh when I saw this . . . I keep thinking . . . caldonia . . . midred . . . etc.
(dancing starts around 2:00 into video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuYpBODSiwo
She led most of it. I like how it looks like the lead starts out offering the left hand, but she's like "NO it's this one!" A non-dancer was sitting next to me, and he laughed heartily saying "That's the most awkward dancing I've ever seen."
I'll say this for a lot of the random swing vids we've seen and laughed with...some of them look like with proper instruction they'd be pretty into it and would be lovely additions to the scene.
Originally posted Wednesday, May 9, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "swinginjay"
Quoted from "aklamo" This, I believe, hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLtoErqAtw&NR=1
note that it is listed under 'comedy' ...
It looks like this is the event that the kids in the blue shirts from a few pages ago were auditioning for. And do my eyes deceive me, or did they make it (one of the kids looks like he could be the one in the audition)? I even almost see a Charleston swingout.
-j
What I do know, is I am frightened for them. They don't have the skill or understanding to safely do those aerials. I hope no one gets hurt.
Originally posted Wednesday, May 9, 2007 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "got wood" Don't know if any of you have seen this, but really I can't find anything wrong with it.;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9KERbMBEdE
I have no problems with that video at all. Especially not their wardrobe.
Originally posted Wednesday, May 9, 2007 (4 years ago)
The dancing wasn't nearly as bad as most of the other clips in this thread. And it isn't just the scanty wardrobe. It's the bodies contained within the scanty wardrobe.
Videos of people dancing "the swing"
So I don't want this topic to be cruel or making fun of anyone, but I wanted everyone to share any videos they come across online of people that dance to swing music, but what the're doing is something makes you wonder where they heck they learned to dance like they do . . . (i.e. unique…
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<derail> For those of you wondering about "The Pretzel", part 3 starts off with it. I'd consider this at least the sorta kinda nicer way to do it by asking for the follow's hand instead of making it happen.
"What's the next move?" "It's called the Pretzel? Oy-yoy-yoy" :roll: </derail>--R
y i no haz signature? Come on people, make with the funny.
It's just sad when a choreographer does a "swing number" using broadway dancers . . . sigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42bmK-ankoo
CollegiateShag.com
In defense of trained professional dancers everywhere...I consider the above example to be a shortcoming of the choreographer/director- not of the dancers.
If the choreographer had actually watched Hellzapoppin', and passed the style on to the dancers, believe me they could've made it look good, that's their job.
The problem is that few in that world knows how swing is "supposed" to look, by trad lindy standards.
Part of that is their lack of respect for us, though, right? As you said, ballroom dancers think we have [lots of negative things]. I'm guessing Broadway dancers feel sorta similar. Or, choreographers, at least.
I think Gary hit it on the head.
Many "real" dancers and choreographers just look at what we've spent years and years trying to perfect and go "Well, [bleep!]. That looks easy, we can totally fake our way through that without bothering to learn anything about what actual lindy hoppers look like. We wouldn't want to dirty our hands with that."
I mean, holding hands and running in a circle to imitate a swingout? seriously?
Many serious ballroom and broadway dancers would freak if they saw any of us un-trained types attempting to do what they do, because they can see the distinction. Why should it be any different when we see people (or people's work, in the case of choreographers) who seem not to give a crap about the dance that they're appropriating, the dance that we love?
If by good you mean authentic color me skeptical.
I suppose I could be grossly misinformed, but doesn't part of the visual aesthetic of Lindy Hop comes from an athletic posture and a way of moving that is fundementally different from the way professional broadway dancers(professional dancers in general) are taught to dance?
Fred Astaire attempted to Lindy Hop, and the result was pretty funny if you were familiar with the actual dance.
Of course, if you mean pretty and good to the non-'lindy informed' eye than I agree completely.
Heh. This thread is reminding me of much of the "swing dancing" that goes on in Jacksonville. If you ask around in our local scene, a lot of people will probably say that these two are some of the best dancers.
Now, those are two terribly nice people, and the girl is the one that got me into swing in the first place, but they're dancing the exact same way they did when I met them in 1998. There are a select few people in the scene that have grown and evolved, but that's the exception, not the rule. These are people that go out dancing fairly often, and yes, that's pretty much how they dance on the social floor, but with just a slightly lower frequency of ariels.
Sigh...
Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
I don't know if this was swing dance inspired, but it certainly could have been.
https://plus9.safe-order.net/kclindyhop//Misc_Archive/Flip_Gone_Bad.wmv
My video made it to this thread.. woo hoo
LOL
That was soooo funny, I even pissed myself laughing when I just watched it again.
Let me put it this way: Professional dancers are trained often in many dances, but most of their success (in terms of being solidly employed) is derived from their versatility. It is their JOB to perform the choreographer's vision. Dancers in broadway shows often also have work in music videos, iPod commercials, N-Sync concert tours. The [bleep!]cat Dolls are ex-ballerinas. Pro dancers are trained to move their body in the character of the dance they are doing, which is what makes Alvin Ailey different from a Jay Z music video, but many dancers have had employment in both.
My point in my first post was this: If Steven Mitchell had choreographed and directed a lindy piece with those dancers, it would have looked great, because the right direction would've put those bodies to work in exactly the way we would like to see lindy look.
whoops
This, I believe, hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLtoErqAtw&NR=1
note that it is listed under 'comedy' ...
it does not mean a thing if it does not have "the swing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjNzXCmb-Fk
CollegiateShag.com
You can see that and more for only 22 euros (almost 30)! :green:
This is truely a gem of this discussion - I didn't recognize any "swing" moves or even "the swing" moves until the couple came out and danced. And was there a little hula bit in there?
Heheh...that dude came to our workshop last year. He's was deceptively awesome. I don't know what that means.
I found this one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kLxkF0LNss&mode=related&search=
Some things just never change. :)
-j
It looks like this is the event that the kids in the blue shirts from a few pages ago were auditioning for. And do my eyes deceive me, or did they make it (one of the kids looks like he could be the one in the audition)? I even almost see a Charleston swingout.
-j
Well, they did do some Charleston and jazz steps in the beginning, but it was hard to tell between all the hopping, bouncing ponytails and ginormous skirts.
I'm willing to vouch that it's nothing like what I've ever seen at Tap.
All I could do was laugh when I saw this . . . I keep thinking . . . caldonia . . . midred . . . etc.
(dancing starts around 2:00 into video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuYpBODSiwo
CollegiateShag.com
Oh my Lord. That hurt, and not because of the dancing. I couldn't finish it. I kept expecting her to snap in half like a little twig (and I didn't know Shelley Duval had a teenage daughter...).
The title "Fake Mustache" and there being drag show videos on the side makes me think it might be Shelley Duval's son. But still. owie.
Don't know if any of you have seen this, but really I can't find anything wrong with it.;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9KERbMBEdE
Let's not push that envelope any further though.
-Eff
She led most of it. I like how it looks like the lead starts out offering the left hand, but she's like "NO it's this one!" A non-dancer was sitting next to me, and he laughed heartily saying "That's the most awkward dancing I've ever seen."
I'll say this for a lot of the random swing vids we've seen and laughed with...some of them look like with proper instruction they'd be pretty into it and would be lovely additions to the scene.
-j
Then can you practice teh preachy and stop discussing measuring and sizing with Monsignore in the Trollop thread? :-P
Thanks!! redbean
What I do know, is I am frightened for them. They don't have the skill or understanding to safely do those aerials. I hope no one gets hurt.
I have no problems with that video at all. Especially not their wardrobe.
Sigh...
It makes me sad that all it takes for you guys to overlook truly awful dancing is scanty wardrobing. :-P
The dancing wasn't nearly as bad as most of the other clips in this thread. And it isn't just the scanty wardrobe. It's the bodies contained within the scanty wardrobe.
The ones that contain as much synthetic material as natural? Yeah, they're okay, I guess...
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