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  Sweat soaked t-shirts on guys.

Okay guys... So we all sweat and some (like me) start sweating faster than others. We're all aware of this natural occurence and many of our follows are tolerant and understanding of it, but when your shirt looks like it just been dunked in a wash basin, oh come on! Its time to change your…

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  • Post #31
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

Have you tried showing up in spaghetti strapped top?

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  • Post #32
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

No. But I have worn chaps and hotpants.

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  • Post #33
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

MY EYES!!!!! MY EYES!!!!!! :o :o :o

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  • Post #34
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

Oh, you know you loved it.

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  • Post #35
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

MY EYES!!!!! MY EYES!!!!! :o :o :o

Martinis do not contain vodka. —Rachel Maddow

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  • Post #36
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

I think guys take the most heat because of the size/height differential-- follows tend to find our faces in large manchest/underarm territory a lot more. For example, a follow can regularly end up with a cheek or nose pressed tight against her partners chest. I don't think it's as common the other way round.

:D I "glow" too much to complain, myself, but I do love a lead in a nice fresh t-shirt. It's like a present.

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  • Post #37
  • Originally posted Saturday, April 14, 2007 (5 years ago)

Count me among those follows who "glow" in rivers.

I routinely change shirts at least once during an evening. One of my favorite tricks is buying two identical shirts so I can get dry without changing my "look" (or my skirt or pants). Plus I towel my head off regularly, which works okay with my extremely short hair.

I'm a big fan of T-shirts made in the stretchy, ribby, completely unnatural Travellers fabric at Chico's. This is the same stuff that they used to make jazz pants out of (the kind you buy in dance stores), and it seems to handle sweat more kindly than other fabrics.

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  • Post #38
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

Why doesn't anyone make a skin tight under shirt with chamois (shammy fabric) on the inside and something like Tyvek or Kevlar on the outside? It would soak up all the sweat and maintain an impenetrable moisture barrier between you and your partner. You could dance all night long in one shirt, not get a drop of sweat from your chest or back on the followers and just ring it out at the end of the night... And if you combine it with a chamois hat or head band... you might not drip a drop all night long! ;)

For now I guess I'll just keep changing my t-shirt...

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  • Post #39
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

Damn, I just had another sweet idea... Ever read the book (or seen the movie) Dune? They wear these suits that recycle sweat, urine, etc. by filtering it and returning the extracted water to pouches built into the suit. You drink the water from a little straw attached to your shoulder. If we had these suits, we'd be able to dance all night, never have to go to the bathroom, never have to leave the dance floor to get a drink of water, and we'd never sweat on each other! OMG! ... that's so cool.

Byron

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  • Post #40
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

I've tried changing shirts - my all time high was nine shirts I changed during Fram. Didn't make one ounce of difference - halfway through the first song it was soaked. Not damp - soaked.

I drink a lot of water - over a gallon a day. I'm always warm and am comfortable around 50 degrees as room temperature. With temps mostly in the high 80's, with plenty of humidity at most of the dances I don't have to dance to sweat. Yes, I'll wear wicking shirts but I'll usually dance once or twice then sit at the bar. The advantage of those are that they will evaporate pretty quickly so I'll try not to get them dripping by dancing continuously. Which really sucks because I'd like to sometimes.

Surprisingly they don't smell after they're washed. They don't even smell that bad after a night of dancing compared to some t-shirts I've used. One or two brands did but I tossed them after it wouldn't wash out. Also if I am a mess I'll warn my follow - if they know me and like dancing with me they don't mind. Most of the time they're pretty wet themselves anyway.

Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?

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  • Post #41
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)
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If we had these suits, we'd be able to dance all night, never have to go to the bathroom, never have to leave the dance floor to get a drink of water

ugh...I think I'll just stay with changing shirts every so often. heh heh

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  • Post #42
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

this is NOT what this thread should be about.

grumble grumble grumble

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  • Post #43
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

Just don't wear a large open meshed shirt (as in 1989) like that guy at Fram last week. He sweated all over me - I could smell him on me all the way home. YUCK!

Dry shirts are always nice. Wipe your forehead so you don't drip on your follow. A damp shirt is OK. We're all somewhat sweaty. A cold clammy drenched shirt is not so nice.

Either wear natural materials that soak up sweat and change your shirt as needed or wear a non-wicking material and just stew in your own juices. :D

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  • Post #44
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

Chiming in mostly to agree with what other people have said.

Also, though...I've noticed that I don't sweat all that much, but I need to change my shirt once or twice a night anyway. Why? guys with sweaty palms. I'll notice that the back of my shirt is drenched, but only in very specific places (and usually in the shape of a handprint). Though to be fair, could be that that my shirt is touching my skin more there becuase the leads hand is on my back, not because his hand is sweaty. Anyway its always good to have an extra shirt. The only time its annoying to me is when I'm wearing a dress and need to change the whole outfit. But as compared to being gross, its really not that bad.

Also, the sweaty shirt is annoying to me, but I understand it. Please oh please wipe your forehead between songs. There is nothing grosser than having someone drip sweat on me. If we're waiting for music, you can tell me you need a second and go dry off. I will be thrilled to wait a few 8s before starting to dance if it will make the overall experience more enjoyable.

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  • Post #45
  • Originally posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 (5 years ago)

Changing shirts is a no-duh sort of thing for me. It's real fun when you're penned in in a place like Lincoln Ctr's midsummr swing and nobody can have a bag to change what they're wearing and everybody gets just plain disgusting. Though that's only fun en-masse.

What's really embarassing is that I shave my head and so I'm constantly on the lookout for droplets flying.

What is your feeling about the back-pocket hand-towel for head drying purposes? Does it need to be kept off the [ahem] Dance floor? Are you grossed out by knowing that it's there? --R

y i no haz signature? Come on people, make with the funny.

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  • Post #46
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

What's worse than your partner spinning and flinging their sweat at you?

Your partner with a runny nose spinning and flinging their snot at you.

Been there.

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  • Post #47
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

The back pocked hand towel is fine by me. I would think you would want to keep it off the floor. Mine'll stay on me or on a table, but if you want to put it on the floor, more power to you.

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  • Post #48
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

Please, please, PLEASE change the sweat soaked tshirt. For your own sake. Because if a girl is grossed out by your sweat, she WILL warn other girls that they don't want to dance with you.

And do you really want your follow silently praying, "Please don't do bal, please don't do bal..."

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  • Post #49
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

I will say that knowing my close personal friends, depending on how sweaty they are and at what point during the night, it can be 'acceptable.' But if it's within like the first hour? change, or sit out a little bit, or cover up! Some of my guy friends will inquire with me to put my left hand on the shoulder, and if I come away with a sweat drenched palm, I'll kindly suggest to take a little break to dry off some :lol:

I try to keep on track of my own sweating and dry off or change shirts...the worst experience I've had to date is a guy at a fram night who wore a dress shirt with NO undershirt and when asked to dance his shirt felt like ice first off, and it was then when I realized it was so soaked with his sweat, that it was as if he'd showered in his clothes, gross beyond gross :green:

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  • Post #50
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

I always bring 5-6 extra T-shirts with me and wear a Hawaiian shirt. That definitely helps to keep my partner nice and dry but after the first intense dance I am never truly dry again. The over shirt never gets wet if you keep changing the T-shirts unless you are at Fram and the AC is dead.

I too shave my head and always carry a back-pocket towel. You can buy a really good one of these at any outdoor store that will soak up way more moisture then a regular towel. You have to keep a real towel with your stuff that you can constantly revisit and also use to wipe off when changing a shirt. I am always tempted to wear a head band as I would never play a sport like racquetball without wearing one but I look enough like a geek sometimes and don't need to emphasis that.

Two last things.

If I tried to wear a jacket while dancing I would die from the heat.

There is good news for all who have this wetness problem; fresh sweat has no smell to it just don't eat a bunch of garlic that night. Old sweat on the other hand is just the opposite. Fresh clean clothing and a fresh clean body will let you know that strange expression on your partners face is a good one.

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  • Post #51
  • Originally posted Wednesday, April 18, 2007 (5 years ago)

Back-pocket towels for the head-shavers or profuse-sweaters are fantastic, IMHO. I don't get totally grossed out by dancing with a lead whose shirt is quite damp (let's face it - we all sweat when we dance) but I don't want to be mushed up against it, and I especially don't like being dripped on or having flying sweat hit me! I don't have a shaved head, so I don't know what works ... if you wore sport wrist bands, or something, could you sortof wipe while you dance? Or is that too geeky/weird?

And guys, if you know you're that kind that drips, staying in one place on the floor makes the floor really sticky for your follow who's trying to spin when you lead her ... not sure truly what the solution is, but perhaps awareness is a start ...

"Change your thoughts, and you change your world" - Norman Vincent Peale.

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  • Post #52
  • Originally posted Thursday, July 24, 2008 (4 years ago)

I've been promising this for a while, but have finally gotten around to it this week.

For the last two or three months, I have been working on layering at summer swing events to test a hypothesis: that wearing a inner wicking layer underneath a breathable cotton layer is a more comfortable and convenient system than wearing a single cotton layer that gets changed frequently over the course of an evening.

To test this, I had purchased a number of wicking shirts over the spring, including these brands:

Nike DriFit Nike FitDry Nike Pro Underarmour Heat Gear Starter StarDri Reebok NFL Equipment Athletic Gear New Balance

I also used a cotton sleeveless tank top as a control.

My outer layer ranged from a polo shirt to a knit Cubavera button-down shirt to a guayabera.

My dancing experiences were both indoors and outdoors, in places ranging from the outdoor concourse of Pennsylvania Station in Baltimore to the Glen Echo Bumper Car Pavilion to Jam Cellar to the Reston Town Center to the New York City dance parade. Temperatures ranged from the high 70s to the mid-90s.


Here's what I found over the course of my research:

  1. Any time you wear an undershirt -- wicking or not -- under a cotton outer layer, the outer layer is often dryer to the touch -- even after extended periods of dancing -- than a single layer worn next to the skin.

  2. There are exceptions. If the temperature is above 95 degrees, or if you're wearing a cotton undershirt, your outer shirt will get wringing wet in some places.

  3. A cutoff tee or tank top as your wicking layer is much more comfortable than if you had full sleeves. When you have four layers of fabric under your arm rather than two, it traps heat rather than letting it vent.

  4. Some wicking layers work better than others. For me, the StarDri and the Reebok NFL Equipment tops tend to trap more heat than moisture. These two wicking shirts are very tight-fitting and have a Lycra feel to them.

  5. The one that worked the best for me was the Nike Pro, which breathed exceptionally well, especially on the occasion that a breeze was present.


Here are a couple of caveats to what I have said above.

1) Don't wear a wicking layer by itself. I have seen several leads wearing polyester tops in hot weather and they got very, very wet by the end of the night -- giving the wicking capability of the fabric, I wonder why?

2) When it's humid, your wicking layer won't work nearly as well as when the air is relatively dry.

3) Don't make this two-layer system into a substitute for common sense when you're dancing in the summer. If you take a break once in a while, you won't get totally drenched.

4) Make sure that wicking layer you're wearing is clean before wearing it so that it doesn't start smelling when it gets really hot.

5) Drink plenty of fluids.


I know it sounds counterintuitive, but I believe the two-layer system works if managed properly.

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  • Post #53
  • Originally posted Thursday, July 24, 2008 (4 years ago)

Thanks Al, this is some advice I can actually use, I'm one of the sweaty ones. :D

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  • Post #54
  • Originally posted Thursday, July 24, 2008 (4 years ago)

Awesome research!!

"Change your thoughts, and you change your world" - Norman Vincent Peale.

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  • Post #55
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)

Yeah, nice write-up. I'll add one thing about the high-tech wicking fabrics: Throw them in the wash as soon as you get home to cut down/eliminate the "stink buildup". I've found that if I can get them in the wash while they're still damp, it's all good. Once they dry with sweat on them, odor tends to set in and it's hard to get out (Baking Soda does OK). And if you forget about them for a day or two before washing...it's over.

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  • Post #56
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "Monsignore"
What's worse than your partner spinning and flinging their sweat at you? Your partner with a runny nose spinning and flinging their snot at you. Been there.

are your serious?

this is snot right at all.

and curious..............where were you hit? don't tell me the mouth....

if you have been snotted, this deserves a whole new thread, as sweat and snot are on two different gross levels.

i have never heard of such a thing.

Air Air
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  • Post #57
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "televandalist"
Yeah, nice write-up. I'll add one thing about the high-tech wicking fabrics: Throw them in the wash as soon as you get home to cut down/eliminate the "stink buildup". I've found that if I can get them in the wash while they're still damp, it's all good. Once they dry with sweat on them, odor tends to set in and it's hard to get out (Baking Soda does OK). And if you forget about them for a day or two before washing...it's over.

Interesting, I've found this to be much more true with cotton then the wicking shirts.

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  • Post #58
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)

Why don't ya just take your shirt off prior to dancing?

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  • Post #59
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)
Quoted from "DancinDavio"
Quoted from "Monsignore"
What's worse than your partner spinning and flinging their sweat at you? Your partner with a runny nose spinning and flinging their snot at you. Been there.
are your serious? this is snot right at all. and curious..............where were you hit? don't tell me the mouth.... if you have been snotted, this deserves a whole new thread, as sweat and snot are on two different gross levels. i have never heard of such a thing.

Davio,

Don't you remember that one, sultry, sweaty dance we had a couple of weeks ago? It was hot, humid, we were extremely close, and then when you spun me, my sweat flew all over your face? That wasn't sweat.... wasn't snot either. I hope you enjoy swass on your face...

You told me to dance swassy (or was it sassy?).

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  • Post #60
  • Originally posted Friday, July 25, 2008 (4 years ago)

For dressy nights I usually go with the three layer system (regardless of the heat/humidity):

cotton t-shirt button down dress shirt sports coat/suit coat

If it gets unbearably hot, the coat can come off and at least I still have a button down shirt. Since the cotton t-shirt takes most of the moisture, I always have multiple shirts to change into, and keep the dress shirt on. This means the moisture has to go through two layers to even reach the coat, and with consistent changes the dress shirt doesn't even get wet.

I've always been made fun of bringing a bath/beach towel to dances... but let's face it. If it's crowded and steamy as most NY venues often are, a hand towel on a sweaty person is not going to make much of a difference after an hour of dancing. The increased surface area of the larger towel guarantees enough coverage for long periods of dancing, and then it gets tossed in the laundry when I get home. I'd rather look tacky but be dry and not smelly (deodorant in the bag, foot powder/spray for when I take off the shoes) with a large towel than be the reputed "wet dancer".

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