Quoted from "OpeningMinds"
Yucky idea - total delay inbetween songs, and lost dancing momentum!

Eh. He could probably just call out the forum handle of the person the request came from whenever the song begins and without pausing in between, but ... I can see how that can become very annoying very quickly. The NYSDS dance last night had a pause between EVERY SONG the band did. A long 2-minute pause. And there were complaints amongst the dancers.

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Quoted from "rikomatic"
"Idlewild Blue" Outkast

Absolutely adore this-please-please-please!!!!!

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Quoted from "Heptamer"
Rahsaan Rolan Kirk - Night Train Bjork (Gling Glo sessions) - Ruby Baby Flip Phillips - Znarg Blues ??? - Moten Swing (alt. take) ??? - Skaters' Waltz Harry James - The Truth Lavay Smith & RHSL - And Her Tears Flowed Like Wine New Orleans Jazz Vipers - Exactly Like You fast fast songs... Illinois Jacquet - Speedliner Benny Goodman - Avalon novelty songs...(for swing, anyway) Save Ferris - Come On Eileen Outkast - Hey Ya and a throwback -- Hall & Oates -- You Make My Dreams = = = (i'm pretty sure that even though the track is Moten Swing, Bennie Moten isn't the performer).

Some of these sound fun--but I have trouble even dancing freestyle to "Hey ya"--It's great to listen to but would be almost impossible to dance lindy. Please do not play that.

Yeah! Please play all of these (except for "Hey Ya")!

I might even be there...or something. ;-)

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Quoted from "Zev"
You do realize that no one hears the complaints about Fram DJs more early or often than RubyMae, right?

I did not complain about the DJs, did I?

I just meant that if Swifty plays the stuff on your list RubyMae will hear the complaints. So you should trust her. Sorry if you feel unwelcome, it's not about you, it's about your requests.

Anyway I don't want to hijack the thread, so if you want, take it to PM or just let it lie.

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Quoted from "RubyMae"
You do realize that Frim Fram is (ostensibly) a swing dance, primarily lindy-hop based?

You do realize that in some other places people do swing dance to music like that from time to time. Doing so does not diminish their dancing skills or their love of the dance. Variety is a good thing.

I say, save the "variety" for the West Coast Swing Dance down the street.

WCS lends itself much better to "variety" due to the slotted non-bouncey action of the dance. Lindy hop, yes, can be the circle that you squeeze into a square hole, but I personally find it very annoying when there's too much mainstream music at a Lindy event. The basic actions of Lindy don't match well with non-bouncy music like Seal, for instance. Besides, Jazz/blues is a superior genre, in general, and I would rather hear that.

I'm so over the time when DJs and dancers "explored" other genres for Lindy.

Mahna Mahna.

Lucas with The lid Off!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Also someone mentioned Guru-Plenty

I miss that one too.

Seriously--I loved the second version of Ella doing Duke's Place that you played from the Ella Blue CD on the way to Rochester. It's incredible!

Forgive me. I have no desire to disrupt a thread, but I feel this must be said. This will be my last word.

If I knew at the beginning of this thread what I know now, I would not have been so excited. In fact, I probably would not have posted at all. This thread contained my first post to Yehoodi in over a year, and I am reminded of why I've been so reluctant to contribute for the past year. I did not want to get involved in debates with self-righteous people who were going to try to force their opinions of what is and is not correct in swing and lindy hop. Although, I am relatively new to the NYC scene, I have been swing dancing for years now. My feelings about swing and my tastes in music are no less valid than yours. FYI Some of you may want to look into reading John Stuart Mills' On Liberty. He had some very interesting things to say about the role of minority opinions in finding the truth, namely that you should tolerate them even if you disagree because your beliefs are almost meaningless otherwise.

I cannot believe some of you people are connected to the dance I know and love. The swing dance I know is about joy, community, and individual expression, not about rigidly defining a dance and forcing that definition on others. It is about encouraging expression, not limiting it.

I have learned so much through this thread about you people (and your open resistance to ideas and opinions different than your own), the New York lindy scene, and most importantly for me, my place within this scene, or perhaps lack thereof. It has been an eye opening experience. For that I thank you, Beckto, Zev, and RubyMae.

Can't vouch for much else, but I do know that Outkast definitely has some swingable music from the Idlewild sountrack. "Call the Law" is ... probably too long for most people's tastes (nearly 5 minutes), but "When I Look Into Your Eyes" is an agreeable 2:44, midtempo, and has a lot of Charleston-sounding influence I think.

While I haven't heard the version of "Murder He Says" by Duke Heitger, I can assume it's a pretty solid track based on what I do have by his band ("Swing Pan Alley" is a particular favorite). The Tori Amos version is really good too, and from what I've listened to from her catalogue, it's pretty atypical to her usual style, so no one should worry about it having come from one of those Now That's What I Call Music albums (which I tend to really, really hate).

In any case, Swifty's the one in control of this night, as he's already said (multiple times) above. It's up to him whether he's going to play the stuff or not, so I don't believe we'll be changing the face of Lindy Hop in NYC forever unless Swifty jumps the shark and only plays late 90s boy/girl band pop hits all night (please, please, please don't). But doesn't mean he shouldn't have the opportunity to put in a little variety at his discretion. Yay.

But back on topic. if you've got "Life Goes To A Party/Jumpin' At The Woodside" by Robert Hraft (which, like my first request, is on the Swing Kids OST), I wouldn't mind hearing it either.

Okay, I've got two, but I have to admit that there's only about a 5 chance I'll make it to Fram:

Corey Harris & Henry Butler - Shake What Your Mama Gave You Dave Cahill w/Jessi Teich - All Of Me

I'd be surprised if you have the second one, but the CD I have says, "feel free to copy, burn, distribute, etc", so I can send you a copy if you want it. I got it from a guy at work who helped with the CD.

If you want to check it out, Teich has a MySpace page with the track (and a nice version of Summertime from the same CD).

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=15148601

Dave

"I Just Want to Make Love to You" Etta James. The version on the "At Last" album.

Coffee and Reefer - Ron Sunshine

Wade in the Water - Eva Cassidy

They Can't Take That Away from Me - Billie Holiday

Quoted from "Heptamer"
Outkast - Hey Ya

I like this version, doesn't make my ears bleed and swings just as much as the original.

Michael Bouble - "Save The Last Dance For Me"

About a year ago, when I was taking bass lessons, my instructor gave me a CD of jazz songs, and he told me to pay attention to what the bassist was doing, that is, laying down particularly solid bass groove. He gave me the names of the songs, but not the performers -- and there are a lot of versions of Moten Swing out there.

Anyway, after a few minutes digging around on iTunes, it's

Oscar Peterson - Moten Swing (alt. take).

What a great idea, Ryan! I hope it works out well, and sorry I won't be there myself.

Quoted from "lilieblue"
A Sidney Bechet tune that rocks but that doesn't get as much play.

Added on top of that, I would request a Bechet song that rocks but that doesn't get much play and is between 120 - 160 bpm and doesn't have "Naughty" in the title :)

And on another note, the Oscar Peterson Moten Swing alt take - if it's the one from Night Train - ends abruptly. I've been to two dances where a DJ played it, not having listened to the whole thing, and then got booed by the dancers when the song just suddenly stopped in the middle!

Have fun tomorrow!