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Two Bengal baby cats. Boys. I guess these are mixed with leopards, or wild cats, or something like that. They have spots. Little spots.

Their boy parts were removed. I would remove there fingertips so they don't scratch up my stuff. I have a lot of really nice stuff and would be mad if it got damaged by baby cats. I hear the don't feel pain when they are babies and this is done. So it doesn't matter, I guess. I bet it's like having your finger nails trimmed. I am probably right about this.

I heard you can leave cats alone for like a week or two at a time. That is good for me as I have two homes and travel a lot as well. Do they make automatic litter changers? Anyone have a link? Can baby cats be taught to use a toilet, so my place doesn't smell like Asher's apartment?

Does anyone have any advice on baby cats and how to care for them and if they are fun to own or just too much responsibility and not a joy to own.

I have a baby cat consultation later today. I don't think this is something someone should think too much about beforehand. Because cats are independent, right? I think it's more important to just see if baby cats and I like each other.

-Eff

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  • Joined 2/29/08
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  • Post #1
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Effervescent"
I heard you can leave cats alone for like a week or two at a time. That is good for me as I have two homes and travel a lot as well. Do they make automatic litter changers? Anyone have a link? Can baby cats be taught to use a toilet, so my place doesn't smell like Asher's apartment?

It doesn't sound like you want a baby cat. It sounds like you want a friend who has a baby cat so you can play with it but not deal with the annoying parts of actually owning said baby cat. Trust me, I understand.

And remember - baby cats grow up into adult cats. Then what would you do?

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  • Post #2
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Boosh!"
And remember - baby cats grow up into adult cats. Then what would you do?

He'd have to stop stuffing them up his ass, for one...

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  • Post #3
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Truthfully, I think many of my friends would not be responsible enough for baby cats.

Also, I only really want the baby cats. I might just give them to a poor family or Bid-A-Wee if they grow to large, normal cats.

-Eff

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  • Post #4
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Beckto"
Quoted from "Boosh!"
And remember - baby cats grow up into adult cats. Then what would you do?
He'd have to stop stuffing them up his ass, for one...

Please try to act intellectual.

-Eff

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  • Post #5
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Boosh!"
It doesn't sound like you want a baby cat.

Correct. I want two.

-Eff

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  • Post #6
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Question: can baby cat wear diapers like baby human? Not all the time of course but maybe for motorcycle rides, when packed in the saddlebag?

-Eff

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  • Post #7
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Beckto"
Quoted from "Boosh!"
And remember - baby cats grow up into adult cats. Then what would you do?
He'd have to stop stuffing them up his ass, for one...

You underestimate Eff's ass.

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  • Post #8
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Effervescent"
Question: can baby cat wear diapers like baby human? Not all the time of course but maybe for motorcycle rides, when packed in the saddlebag? -Eff

Saddlebag? Oy... poor cats.

  1. Very difficult to potty train a cat, though it's been done before.

  2. There are easy litter boxes, where it combs out the stuff for you or rolls it into a special area of the box, but none that I can think of that are automatic. (There are, however, automatic water dishes!)

  3. While you could leave a cat alone for a week or two, I don't recommend it. Animals, like people, need socialization. If you can't be around for the cats, then probably best to think about getting a couple cats when you have more time to spend with them. If I have to leave my cats for any longer than a weekend (like a week vacation, or something), I'll either have friends check up on them and hang out with them, or see if someone is willing to take them for that time period. Anything longer than a week, I try to bring them back to Connecticut to stay with my mom.

  4. De-clawing hurts a cat, no matter what age. Many people think it's a cruel thing to do because you're basically taking away the animal's only defense. What would they do if they ever escaped from your house/apartment? Plus, cats with their nails are much more likely to adapt to new situations, especially if you think you might move a lot. To keep the cats from destroying my house, I do a couple of things: I keep their nails cut, I use a water spray bottle if they try to do anything bad so they know it's not allowed and we've recently started using these little nail covers that are quite nice and really keep the cats from damaging any furniture at all. Still, however, they are cats and they are going to get themselves into trouble now and again. If you have a no-tolerance policy to the cats messing up your stuff, having a cat might be more difficult for you than you think.

"If music be the food of love, play on!" - Shakespeare

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  • Post #9
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Also kittens are notorious for gnawing / chewing on stuff too, not just clawing them. Otherwise, I second what pocotell said: declawed young cat = defenseless adult cat.

There are, in fact, automated litter boxes. Who knew.

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  • Post #10
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

They're cute, sure... but they will try to kill you.

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  • Post #11
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

How would you like it if someone ripped your fingernails out?

Believe me, the minute I learn you've decided to take ownership of even one baby cat, I'm alerting the ASPCA.

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  • Post #12
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

For Christs sake Eff will you just go ahead and knock your wife up?

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  • Post #13
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Bwahahahaha!!!

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  • Post #14
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "pocotell"
1. Very difficult to potty train a cat, though it's been done before. 2. There are easy litter boxes, where it combs out the stuff for you or rolls it into a special area of the box, but none that I can think of that are automatic. (There are, however, automatic water dishes!) 3. Animals, like people, need socialization. 4. De-clawing hurts a cat, no matter what age.
  1. I think there are some breeds of cats that are less stupid than others and don't need to be taught: they do it automatically.

  2. Generally, which smells worse: regular doo-doo/pee-pee or baby cat doo-doo/pee-pee? And does smell change when they grow old?

  3. I have A LOT of stuffed toys and stuffed animals that he could play with. He will be happy and not feel lonely.

  4. I am almost positive it does not hurt one bit when they are young. Imagine having your first hair cut or going to the salon for the first time. Yes, it feels different but it doesn't hurt you, I think.

New question: it's physically impossible for baby cat to have diarrhea, right? That might be deal breaker.

-Eff

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  • Post #15
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Miss Behave"
For Christs sake Eff will you just go ahead and knock your wife up?

Crazy Cat Lady, please do not take L_rd's name in vein: family-orientated site!

-Eff

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  • Post #16
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Effervescent"
Quoted from "pocotell"
1. Very difficult to potty train a cat, though it's been done before. 2. There are easy litter boxes, where it combs out the stuff for you or rolls it into a special area of the box, but none that I can think of that are automatic. (There are, however, automatic water dishes!) 3. Animals, like people, need socialization. 4. De-clawing hurts a cat, no matter what age.
1. I think there are some breeds of cats that are less stupid than others and don't need to be taught: they do it automatically. 2. Generally, which smells worse: regular doo-doo/pee-pee or baby cat doo-doo/pee-pee? And does smell change when they grow old? 3. I have A LOT of stuffed toys and stuffed animals that he could play with. He will be happy and not feel lonely. 4. I am almost positive it does not hurt one bit when they are young. Imagine having your first hair cut or going to the salon for the first time. Yes, it feels different but it doesn't hurt you, I think. New question: it's physically impossible for baby cat to have diarrhea, right? That might be deal breaker. -Eff
  1. It has nothing to do with breed of cat, I promise you. No cat will go in the toilet automatically.

  2. Do-do/pee-pee smells the same, no matter the age of the animal. Generally, the bigger the animal gets, the more do-do/pee-pee it produces, which can account for a worse smell.

  3. Toys will never take the place of human interaction.

  4. De-clawing a cat is not anything like cutting your hair or nails. Imagine if you were to have your nails surgically removed -- it would hurt, no matter how old you are.

  5. Somehow I think you're pulling my leg with all of this, but I'm playing along for now.

"If music be the food of love, play on!" - Shakespeare

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  • Post #17
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "pocotell"
1. It has nothing to do with breed of cat, I promise you. No cat will go in the toilet automatically. 2. Do-do/pee-pee smells the same, no matter the age of the animal. Generally, the bigger the animal gets, the more do-do/pee-pee it produces, which can account for a worse smell. 3. Toys will never take the place of human interaction. 4. Imagine if you were to have your nails surgically removed -- it would hurt, no matter how old you are. 5. Somehow I think you're pulling my leg with all of this, but I'm playing along for now.
  1. Okay. But I still think Bengal baby cats are less stupid then most baby cat breeds.

  2. That makes sense, when I think of Air.

  3. Many toys are now modern and interactive. Yes it is not the same but I believe cats and baby cats especially probably don't know the difference as much as real babies.

  4. If I had to have a fingernail operation, I am pretty sure they would give me a pill to numb me. Think for a second: they would do the same for baby cat.

  5. I ALREADY told you: I have baby cat consultation tonight! 9pm. Will take pics. I am just trying to do the right thing. To be transparent.

-Eff

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  • Post #18
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Effervescent"
New question: it's physically impossible for baby cat to have diarrhea, right? That might be deal breaker. -Eff

Does anyone know if cat diarrhea exists!?!

-Eff

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  • Post #19
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Effervescent"
2. Generally, which smells worse: regular doo-doo/pee-pee or baby cat doo-doo/pee-pee? And does smell change when they grow old? -Eff

Please try to act intellectual.

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  • Post #20
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Possible names: 1) Foxy Mittens (pronounced "Fooooxxxyyyy Mittens!") 2) Mr. Muffin 3) Stampy Peters (pronounced just "Stampy" probably, I have to check)

-Eff

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  • Post #21
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Heptamer"
Also kittens are notorious for gnawing / chewing on stuff too, not just clawing them.

I googled this. Evidentially, there's a (painless) procedure when they don't remove baby cat teeth but (instead) file the peaks down. They can still eat their food. The only thing missing is the ability to destroy.

I have several museum quality pieces of furniture that nothing can happen to. This is important.

-Eff

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  • Post #22
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

if you're going to surgically alter this cat to be unable to bite or scratch you're committing a serious case of animal cruelty. It's a life, not just a toy to be played with except at the expense of furniture.

In fact, if your first priority is protecting your museum quality furniture, maybe having two boy cats is not a good idea for you. Cat owners have to deal with extra hair, extra dander, the occasional scratched up piece of furniture, kitty vomit, kitty litter, hairballs, and above all, keeping the animals safe and happy and healthy. It's a huge responsibility that pays off for years with tons of love and companionship, but it's not like you can just surgically alter your cats so that they don't require any real care.

And personally I have two cats and the most I would ever leave them alone without anyone checking in on them is about 2-3 days. Overnights are fine, sometimes even two nights if it's just a quick trip. This weekend we're going for 2 nights to Phoenix and we're having a friend check up on them on Saturday just in case. Leaving them for a week is cruel.

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  • Post #23
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

I totally agree with Marcelo, except for a few differences.

As much as a cat has become accustomed to human interaction, and as much as leaving two cat's alone for a week will make the unhappy as hell, it is not cruel treatment. It will just stress them out and make them litter your house with your ties. It is hardly optimal, and I always try to arrange for someone to stop by and spend time with them a few times during the week. But if they don't stop by for any reason, it is still not the absolute worst thing in the world. They are animals, and ultimately having the companionship of other animals, meets their core needs. But if they are completely alone, that would be cruel.

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  • Post #24
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Marcelo"
Cat owners have to deal with extra hair, extra dander...kitty vomit, kitty litter, hairballs.

This is very disgusting indeed.

Thank you for the thoughtful post. I appreciate the honest, if surprising, feedback on baby cats.

I have that consultation tonight and need to step out now to get a lot of pseudophed in me, as I have terrible allergies from animals.

-Eff

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  • Post #25
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Wow, I thought this was a joke, but you seem to be getting some serious answers. You have a lot of nice stuff that you don't want messed up, but you're considering leaving a pair of (baby) cats home by themselves for a week or more? No -- that has to be a joke.

And yes, cats do get diarrhea sometimes, and they puke on a regular basis. They especially like to find something upholstered with cloth to puke on -- and if they can aim for a place you like to sit, they like that best.

-- Rachel

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  • Post #26
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Wexie"
I totally agree with Marcelo, except for a few differences. As much as a cat has become accustomed to human interaction, and as much as leaving two cat's alone for a week will make the unhappy as hell, it is not cruel treatment. It will just stress them out and make them litter your house with your ties. It is hardly optimal, and I always try to arrange for someone to stop by and spend time with them a few times during the week. But if they don't stop by for any reason, it is still not the absolute worst thing in the world. They are animals, and ultimately having the companionship of other animals, meets their core needs. But if they are completely alone, that would be cruel.

Understood.

How many baby cats do you have and are they smart or stupid ones?

-Eff

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  • Post #27
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "r_c_s"
And yes, cats do get diarrhea sometimes, and they puke on a regular basis. They especially like to find something upholstered with cloth to puke on

This is terrible news. What makes babycats have diarrhea and how can it be prevented? Do we even know?

-Eff

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  • Post #28
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

Also, it is starting to sounds like baby cats are more like little people and shouldn't be alone for very long time periods. Did I get this right?

-Eff

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  • Post #29
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)

I have 2 male cats, and they're perfectly behaved. We trained them on cat posts, and they do not scratch or bite people. It takes some training and discipline to get them this way and leaving them alone for weeks at a time when they're young is not the way to go.

You might want to try to get 2 grown cats (> 1 year). Many of them grew up in people environments and are well behaved. A lot of cat rescue organizations have fostering programs. You can foster cats that normally would be confined in a cage at the shelter, and at the same time you can evaluate their personalities to see if they are a good fit for you.

They do produce auto cleaning litter boxes. I don't recommend leaving cats alone for more than 3 days without some sort of checkup.

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  • Post #30
  • Originally posted Tuesday, October 20, 2009 (2 years ago)
Quoted from "Marcelo"
This weekend we're going for 2 nights to Phoenix and we're having a friend check up on them on Saturday just in case. Leaving them for a week is cruel.

AZ...ice!

What type of cat do you own? Or is it a baby cat? Does it have special traits compared to other cats/baby cats?

-Eff

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